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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 17:51:15 GMT -5
I'm real sorry everyone, we failed. Not just us... But the Internet as a whole. But there is still a glimmer of hope in the dark clouds of the FCC. We can still fight back! We can do it!
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Post by roflmao on Dec 14, 2017 18:21:02 GMT -5
So it's official the government doesn't give two flying fucks about its people
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Post by S3rios on Dec 14, 2017 22:35:23 GMT -5
I think Ajit Pai is the most out of touch person on the planet.
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Post by Dragon on Dec 14, 2017 22:42:22 GMT -5
I think Ajit Pai is the most out of touch person on the planet. Ladies and gentleman, the proud representative of the FCC. Remember, this man is in charge of your internet.
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Post by DubstepJoltik on Dec 14, 2017 22:46:42 GMT -5
I'm pretty shocked that the Supreme Court isn't doing anything about this whole thing
Am I missing something? Just wondering. Maybe they did something and tried to stay under the radar?
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Post by italic on Dec 14, 2017 23:19:12 GMT -5
the senate and house are mostly republican, right?
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Post by durianhead on Dec 15, 2017 9:00:21 GMT -5
why did this get depinned? the battle has barely begun. it is at this crucial point that we need to start giving even more support for this pressing issue.
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Post by perrito triste on Dec 15, 2017 9:17:17 GMT -5
Oops. Someone "accidentally" leaked Ajij's personal information
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 17:07:36 GMT -5
Tbh I'm glad there isn't nn anymore.
Because if it had NOT been repealed, Google or Mozilla or whoever would really crack down on which websites show up and which don't. If nn was not repealed then, let's say, since Google is liberal/progressive and is against conservatism then Google would be free to make conservative websites load in 30 seconds instead of 5 or so, or perhaps they would prevent conservative websites from loading at all - in other words, NO ONE would be able to view conservative websites anymore simply because Google doesn't like them due to political differences, which doesn't sound like freedom to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 19:06:53 GMT -5
Tbh I'm glad there isn't nn anymore. Because if it had NOT been repealed, Google or Mozilla or whoever would really crack down on which websites show up and which don't. If nn was not repealed then, let's say, since Google is liberal/progressive and is against conservatism then Google would be free to make conservative websites load in 30 seconds instead of 5 or so, or perhaps they would prevent conservative websites from loading at all - in other words, NO ONE would be able to view conservative websites anymore simply because Google doesn't like them due to political differences, which doesn't sound like freedom to me. That might be one pro Here's a Canadian's perspective: If NN is gone, I'm going to lose some good friends If NN is gone, there might be some months where I never talk to my friends If NN is gone, a whole country will be angered If NN is gone, America will have riots about this If NN is gone, America will not be a better place
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Post by DubstepJoltik on Dec 15, 2017 19:17:28 GMT -5
since Google is liberal/progressive and is against conservatism then Google would be free to make conservative websites load in 30 seconds instead of 5 or so, or perhaps they would prevent conservative websites from loading at all - in other words, NO ONE would be able to view conservative websites anymore simply because Google doesn't like them due to political differences, which doesn't sound like freedom to me. But wasn't Google against the Net Neutrality repeal? It might not be the same thing, just wondering
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Post by wasteoffuckingspacexd on Dec 15, 2017 19:18:38 GMT -5
Tbh I'm glad there isn't nn anymore. Because if it had NOT been repealed, Google or Mozilla or whoever would really crack down on which websites show up and which don't. If nn was not repealed then, let's say, since Google is liberal/progressive and is against conservatism then Google would be free to make conservative websites load in 30 seconds instead of 5 or so, or perhaps they would prevent conservative websites from loading at all - in other words, NO ONE would be able to view conservative websites anymore simply because Google doesn't like them due to political differences, which doesn't sound like freedom to me. your argument is based on flawed logic and misleading information. i think google donated money to the democrats so you might be right about their politics but i'm not sure ab out mozilla. i'm assuming that you're saying that google and mozilla would change their browsers to make websites they don't like load more slowly for customers. (since that's the only way they could actually affect anything) first of all, this would be stupid of the companies to do, since all of their conservative customers would create a massive backlash and/or simply switch browsers. there is plenty of competition when it comes to internet browsers. your statement that "NO ONE would be able to view conservative" is ridiculous and is probably based on the stereotype of the extremists who want to shut down free speech. second, this would have to be installed as an update to the browser. as soon as someone realises that new updates are changing the loading speeds of websites, everyone will know and they could just stop updating their browser. if they have auto update, see my first point. thirdly, if they are already allowed to do this, and would actually be prepared to do it, why wouldn't google and mozilla be changing loading times RIGHT NOW? exactly, they know it's stupid so they aren't doing it. fourth, if net neutrality is repealed, ISPS WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING! that's right, they could slow down, or block content promoting democrats because they would make the isps pay more tax or whatever (not saying that's true, it's just a hypothetical example). and guess what? they already do in some countries (look it up). this is DIFFERENT from internet browsers, because browsers have huge competition with hundreds if not thousands of browsers out there. some people have access to just two or even one isp. it seems hypocritical that you only care about free speech getting hindered when it's YOUR political view that's affected, and you're fine if it's the opposition (either that or you didn't think it through).
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Post by MM on Dec 17, 2017 12:37:07 GMT -5
The fact that there are republicans against the repeal shows how bad it truly is AND HOW BAD AJIT PAI IS AS WELL AS HIS IDIOTIC ATTEMPTS TO CALM US
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Post by Lumpy on Jan 1, 2018 16:52:47 GMT -5
Tbh I'm glad there isn't nn anymore. Because if it had NOT been repealed, Google or Mozilla or whoever would really crack down on which websites show up and which don't. If nn was not repealed then, let's say, since Google is liberal/progressive and is against conservatism then Google would be free to make conservative websites load in 30 seconds instead of 5 or so, or perhaps they would prevent conservative websites from loading at all - in other words, NO ONE would be able to view conservative websites anymore simply because Google doesn't like them due to political differences, which doesn't sound like freedom to me. I know this is a really old post, but I just want to point out that Google and Mozilla could still do that regardless of how the vote went. But they have never tried to- because it's dumb, it doesn't help them or anyone else, and if people got mad at them for doing it they could just switch to a different service. This is not the case if an internet provider (rather than a search engine, browser, etc.) was doing it, where people are not always free to switch to a different service.
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