|
|
Post by Norbert GmD on Jan 7, 2019 6:29:11 GMT -5
Hello guys I made this abortion debate thread, where you can discuss abortion. Enjoy!
The abortion debate asks whether it can be morally right to terminate a pregnancy before normal childbirth.
Some people think that abortion is always wrong. Some think that abortion is right when the mother's life is at risk. Others think that there is a range of circumstances in which abortion is morally acceptable.
|
|
2,135 posts
Discord: headhonchkrow#2162
Creator Points: 0
Hardest Demon: Effot 60%
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"https://i.imgur.com/VEt4kTW.png","color":""}
Mini-Profile Name Color: 0a602e
Mini-Profile Text Color: ae220b
|
Post by headhonchkrow on Jan 7, 2019 6:33:46 GMT -5
um I'm not going to get involved in this (I have no idea what to feel on this topic) but please don't run this thread into the ground like other threads on really controversial topics like these. So please behave or if this gets too heated I (or another mod probably) am going to be locking this real quickly
|
|
|
|
Post by durianhead on Jan 7, 2019 6:33:50 GMT -5
uhh
|
|
|
|
Post by Norbert GmD on Jan 7, 2019 6:35:44 GMT -5
um I'm not going to get involved in this but please don't run this thread into the ground like other threads on really controversial topics like these. So please behave or if this gets too heated I (or another mod probably) am going to be locking this real quickly Fair enough! And congrats on mod  |
|
|
|
Post by Flow on Jan 7, 2019 6:36:44 GMT -5
|
|
2,446 posts
Discord: VegetarianBacon#5162
Creator Points: 2
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"","color":"000000"}
Mini-Profile Name Color: ffc700
Mini-Profile Text Color: ffffff
|
Post by VegetarianBacon on Jan 7, 2019 6:45:17 GMT -5
I think it's acceptable. Many people don't want to raise a baby for reasons such as being unable to afford baby items (diapers, baby food, strollers), some people aren't ready, and some people are having issues with relationships. Some know that the baby has birth defects or other conditions and don't have the time or money to treat them.
People also might say that "omg ur killing an innocent baby what's wrong with u!!!1". The baby or embryo or whatever stage it is, won't even know he/she's dead. Also, it's the mother's choice. If she doesn't want to raise a baby, she doesn't have to. She shouldn't have to go through the pain of childbirth if she's not even going to raise the baby herself. Also, we're going go overpopulate soon and we can barely feed the entire world as it is.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 6:46:56 GMT -5
menstruating females
|
|
3,783 posts
Discord: S3rios#8978
Clans: Aether Academy, Qualia, Invertia, Gas Station, Neutron Eco, Zircon
Creator Points: 000
Favorite Level: Transcendence by Millepatte
Hardest Demon: Mathymbol Epsilon
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"http://goodvibeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/vortex2.jpg","color":""}
|
Post by S3rios on Jan 7, 2019 6:51:41 GMT -5
Here’s a hypothetical:
Imagine you’re in a burning building. The door is right in front of you and you have 30 seconds to get out. On your left, you have a living baby. On the right, you have 50 Petri dishes with fertilized eggs. Unless you can tell me, in full sincerity, that you’d save the Petri dishes over the baby, you shouldn’t be pro-life.
Beyond that, even if you were against abortion, legislating against it is basically impossible. If they aren’t having safe abortions they’ll just have unsafe abortions and I think we can agree that that’s probably worse.
Lastly, the way to reduce abortions is sex education and contraception. I don’t understand why so many pro-life people advocate for shit like abstinence-only education and restricted contraception access. Sex education and contraception are both proven to reduce childbirth especially in teens.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ezel on Jan 7, 2019 12:23:25 GMT -5
I agree that it should be accepted in certain situations but I also agree with what S3rios said: sex education needs to be something more common that something it is right now. It should be more common at school so teenagers could learn what consequences do certain things give us.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 13:18:58 GMT -5
Here’s a hypothetical: Imagine you’re in a burning building. The door is right in front of you and you have 30 seconds to get out. On your left, you have a living baby. On the right, you have 50 Petri dishes with fertilized eggs. Detail missing - how much in reach would the baby and petri dishes be? If they're both close enough, you could save both depending on how you can carry the petri dishes and assuming all you need to do to escape unharmed is to go through the door (and nothing else, e.g. climbing). Unless you can tell me, in full sincerity, that you’d save the Petri dishes over the baby, you shouldn’t be pro-life. Beyond that, even if you were against abortion, legislating against it is basically impossible. Simply because I can't enforce legislation rendering abortion illegal doesn't mean I can't be against it. If they aren’t having safe abortions they’ll just have unsafe abortions and I think we can agree that that’s probably worse. Lastly, the way to reduce abortions is sex education and contraception. I don’t understand why so many pro-life people advocate for shit like abstinence-only education and restricted contraception access. Sex education and contraception are both proven to reduce childbirth especially in teens. Replies in bold. Only to part of the post.
On the whole, I believe life begins at conception, making me pro-life. Just my two cents.
|
|
|
|
Post by Norbert GmD on Jan 7, 2019 13:24:41 GMT -5
 Sperm and egg is alive, masturbation and menstruation is murder! |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 13:50:37 GMT -5
Here’s a hypothetical: Imagine you’re in a burning building. The door is right in front of you and you have 30 seconds to get out. On your left, you have a living baby. On the right, you have 50 Petri dishes with fertilized eggs. Detail missing - how much in reach would the baby and petri dishes be? If they're both close enough, you could save both depending on how you can carry the petri dishes and assuming all you need to do to escape unharmed is to go through the door (and nothing else, e.g. climbing). Unless you can tell me, in full sincerity, that you’d save the Petri dishes over the baby, you shouldn’t be pro-life. Beyond that, even if you were against abortion, legislating against it is basically impossible. Simply because I can't enforce legislation rendering abortion illegal doesn't mean I can't be against it. If they aren’t having safe abortions they’ll just have unsafe abortions and I think we can agree that that’s probably worse. Lastly, the way to reduce abortions is sex education and contraception. I don’t understand why so many pro-life people advocate for shit like abstinence-only education and restricted contraception access. Sex education and contraception are both proven to reduce childbirth especially in teens. Replies in bold. Only to part of the post.
On the whole, I believe life begins at conception, making me pro-life. Just my two cents.
I think it’s not very smart to ask how far in reach they are. You just choose 1 or the other in this hypothetical situation. Which one would you choose if you could only choose one? That’s what he’s asking. Personally I would choose the baby in a heartbeat. The fertilized eggs, whether they’re full of life or not, cannot feel, think or do anything. There would be no suffering with the loss of them. Immense suffering would take place upon leaving the baby there. |
|
3,783 posts
Discord: S3rios#8978
Clans: Aether Academy, Qualia, Invertia, Gas Station, Neutron Eco, Zircon
Creator Points: 000
Favorite Level: Transcendence by Millepatte
Hardest Demon: Mathymbol Epsilon
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"http://goodvibeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/vortex2.jpg","color":""}
|
Post by S3rios on Jan 7, 2019 14:19:13 GMT -5
Here’s a hypothetical: Imagine you’re in a burning building. The door is right in front of you and you have 30 seconds to get out. On your left, you have a living baby. On the right, you have 50 Petri dishes with fertilized eggs. Detail missing - how much in reach would the baby and petri dishes be? If they're both close enough, you could save both depending on how you can carry the petri dishes and assuming all you need to do to escape unharmed is to go through the door (and nothing else, e.g. climbing). Unless you can tell me, in full sincerity, that you’d save the Petri dishes over the baby, you shouldn’t be pro-life. Beyond that, even if you were against abortion, legislating against it is basically impossible. Simply because I can't enforce legislation rendering abortion illegal doesn't mean I can't be against it. If they aren’t having safe abortions they’ll just have unsafe abortions and I think we can agree that that’s probably worse. Lastly, the way to reduce abortions is sex education and contraception. I don’t understand why so many pro-life people advocate for shit like abstinence-only education and restricted contraception access. Sex education and contraception are both proven to reduce childbirth especially in teens. Replies in bold. Only to part of the post.
On the whole, I believe life begins at conception, making me pro-life. Just my two cents.
Dude that’s such a fucking weesily answer and you know it. The spirit of the question is that you can save one or the other. The entire point of the question is to test how much you actually stand by “life begins at conception”. As for you being morally opposed, do that all you want. But I don’t think you should presume to dictate other people’s morality, which is what legislation would do. You also didn’t address my education and contraception point so I’m going to assume it means you agree with me. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 15:04:06 GMT -5
Replies in bold. Only to part of the post.
On the whole, I believe life begins at conception, making me pro-life. Just my two cents.
Dude that’s such a fucking weesily answer and you know it. The spirit of the question is that you can save one or the other. The entire point of the question is to test how much you actually stand by “life begins at conception”. As for you being morally opposed, do that all you want. But I don’t think you should presume to dictate other people’s morality, which is what legislation would do. You also didn’t address my education and contraception point so I’m going to assume it means you agree with me. I simply hadn't formulated any responses to your education and contraception points at the time. I probably don't care as much about them anyway, seeing as I'm homeschooled and learned about those topics from my parents. |
|
3,783 posts
Discord: S3rios#8978
Clans: Aether Academy, Qualia, Invertia, Gas Station, Neutron Eco, Zircon
Creator Points: 000
Favorite Level: Transcendence by Millepatte
Hardest Demon: Mathymbol Epsilon
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"http://goodvibeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/vortex2.jpg","color":""}
|
Post by S3rios on Jan 7, 2019 15:24:32 GMT -5
Dude that’s such a fucking weesily answer and you know it. The spirit of the question is that you can save one or the other. The entire point of the question is to test how much you actually stand by “life begins at conception”. As for you being morally opposed, do that all you want. But I don’t think you should presume to dictate other people’s morality, which is what legislation would do. You also didn’t address my education and contraception point so I’m going to assume it means you agree with me. I simply hadn't formulated any responses to your education and contraception points at the time. I probably don't care as much about them anyway, seeing as I'm homeschooled and learned about those topics from my parents. Alright fine but you also haven’t really answered my first hypothetical question. Also, just out of curiousity, what DO your parents teach you about sex and contraception? |
|
