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Post by Ezel on Feb 5, 2019 9:39:55 GMT -5
As we know, since the demon difficulties have been added, people started hunting more for insane demons (or extremes if they're really good). There are some levels that for some reason have been rated insane demon, even though the majority of players consider them to be easier than the suggested difficulty. Link to the list --> HereIf you have any suggestions for demons that could fit into the list, feel free to suggest them here. The red list is for insane demons that are considered "easy" for most players, and the yellow one shows demons that might not be as hard as it shows for 144hz players (probably still hard but significantly easier). I am aware that some people might disagree with some picks or difficulty suggestions. I'm trying to at least do a practice run or play certain segments of the level to check how hard it is. If you have suggestions to change something in it, feel free to tell in this thread. The list is most likely still WIP but I'm open for any suggestions. |
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Post by Dragon on Feb 5, 2019 10:37:14 GMT -5
I’ve played a good deal of Audio Excursion and it’s pretty easy for an insane demon. Personally, I’d rank it more like a hard demon.
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Post by Spatdoepa on Feb 6, 2019 13:01:56 GMT -5
Sharp minor maybe? It's pretty easy imo, probably medium/hard demon.
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Post by Ezel on Feb 6, 2019 18:18:24 GMT -5
Sharp minor maybe? It's pretty easy imo, probably medium/hard demon. I was thinking about adding it, however I think it's slightly harder than Fairydust. Might add it later. |
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Post by pearl3scent on Feb 6, 2019 21:48:53 GMT -5
Future Demoness - I have 40% and 41-71 on it with around 3k attempts. If I can get that much progress on it in that many attempts, I think it's pretty easy. Hard Demon at most. It's mostly balanced in difficulty, but its difficulty is exaggerated.
The Caverns - *Medium Demon. I've played it enough to say it's definitely not at the same caliber as Theory of Firepower.
Colorful Overnight - Closer to Windy Landscape in difficulty than you might think, so Hard Demon.
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Post by Ezel on Feb 7, 2019 8:44:14 GMT -5
Future Demoness - I have 40% and 41-71 on it with around 3k attempts. If I can get that much progress on it in that many attempts, I think it's pretty easy. Hard Demon at most. It's mostly balanced in difficulty, but its difficulty is exaggerated. The Caverns - *Medium Demon. I've played it enough to say it's definitely not at the same caliber as Theory of Firepower. Colorful Overnight - Closer to Windy Landscape in difficulty than you might think, so Hard Demon. Many people consider Future Demoness an insane demon so I probably won't add it. Yeah, I personally consider The Caverns a solid medium demon but there are some people who call it hard demon, so I put something in between. I might add Colorful Overnight but I consider it harder than WL. |
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Post by HexagonGD on Feb 8, 2019 21:52:43 GMT -5
Ghost Temple by DavJT (Medium/Hard Demon) - Has some fairly tricky timings to start it off but turns into a more memo based level. Similar to Castle of Redemption, but way more balanced and definitely a bit harder. Lightning by RyanAB (Hard Demon) - Way easier than a lot of other levels on the list. Has some VERY annoying parts, but not of insane demon caliber (sorry Junky  ) Audio Excursion by GoodSmile and more (Hard Demon) - Difficult, but probably slightly easier than Windy Landscape in terms of pure difficulty. Most of the difficulty is derived from mild annoyances throughout. TG by Ilrell and more (Hard Demon) - Far easier than you would expect. It takes a while to learn, but there aren't many overly difficult timings. 2nd half isn't all that hard once learned, minus a few kinda tough timings. Most devices will get extreme lag though. This is the only one I'm not overly sure about, but it's likely very slightly harder than WL. The Four Elements by Eiken (Hard Demon) - WAAAAY easier than WL, and very fun as well! One I'd definitely recommend to anyone trying easy insane demons! Valhalla by Annon (Hard Demon) - I beat this the day it came out, and personally rated it hard demon. Most people who've beat it claim it should be hard. Hyper Drivers by Lazerblitz (idk) - Lot's of good players claim it's medium demon, and BlackWolfJake said it was easier than Ultra Drivers. I don't know much about this one. I'm just giving it some light. Edit: Almost forgot Plasma Pulse! Considerably easier than WL, at least for me. Still hard demon by our current standards, but on the low end. I don't see this being an in-game medium. |
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Post by Swifter on Feb 8, 2019 21:54:15 GMT -5
Still think that Poltergeist should be on here
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Post by Ezel on Feb 9, 2019 6:32:48 GMT -5
Ghost Temple by DavJT (Medium/Hard Demon) - Has some fairly tricky timings to start it off but turns into a more memo based level. Similar to Castle of Redemption, but way more balanced and definitely a bit harder. I saw that level. Not sure if it's a hard demon or more, I haven't played it yet. And yeah, most of this level seems to be memory based.Lightning by RyanAB (Hard Demon) - Way easier than a lot of other levels on the list. Has some VERY annoying parts, but not of insane demon caliber (sorry Junky ) This level is really fast paced but I agree about it not being hard enough for an insane demon. The timings don't seem to be that strict and only the duals are really hard.Audio Excursion by GoodSmile and more (Hard Demon) - Difficult, but probably slightly easier than Windy Landscape in terms of pure difficulty. Most of the difficulty is derived from mild annoyances throughout. I don't know, I'll wait for more opinions about this level. Haven't played it yet.TG by Ilrell and more (Hard Demon) - Far easier than you would expect. It takes a while to learn, but there aren't many overly difficult timings. 2nd half isn't all that hard once learned, minus a few kinda tough timings. Most devices will get extreme lag though. This is the only one I'm not overly sure about, but it's likely very slightly harder than WL. I think it's rated insane demon because of the length, it's a pretty long level. Not sure about it, I'll wait for more opinions.The Four Elements by Eiken (Hard Demon) - WAAAAY easier than WL, and very fun as well! One I'd definitely recommend to anyone trying easy insane demons! I agree that it's more of a hard demon but not sure if it's that much easier than WL. It still has some tricky timings and the swingcopters weren't easy for me (but maybe that's because I didn't play a lot of swingcopter levels).Valhalla by Annon (Hard Demon) - I beat this the day it came out, and personally rated it hard demon. Most people who've beat it claim it should be hard. Doesn't seem too timing based but it requires some precise flying and know-how. I'll check it later.Hyper Drivers by Lazerblitz (idk) - Lot's of good players claim it's medium demon, and BlackWolfJake said it was easier than Ultra Drivers. I don't know much about this one. I'm just giving it some light. I can see this being more of a hard demon. It's not very long and it has some break parts.Edit: Almost forgot Plasma Pulse! Considerably easier than WL, at least for me. Still hard demon by our current standards, but on the low end. I don't see this being an in-game medium. I kinda agree with Plasma Pulse but I wouldn't consider it easier than WL. It has some tricky parts like the first wave and the UFO part. The worst part is the dual which is really inconsistent, and that's what kinda makes me not want to put it there. Still I think it's like a high-end hard than an insane demon, as it's rather short and it has only one really inconsistent part.Blue = replies. |
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Post by Cyclo on Feb 12, 2019 21:45:04 GMT -5
This will be really useful for me in the future. Thanks for making this!
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Post by HexagonGD on Feb 14, 2019 23:38:24 GMT -5
I still think Ghost Temple really needs to be on the list. The 1st 40% is, admittedly, pretty hard. The ball at 48% has a few tricky timings, but nothing close to Despair timings. Everything else from 40-77 is easy/medium demon difficulty. UFO at 77% is hard, but similar to the UFO parts in Despair. 83 to the end is all easy. There's no way this level can be harder than Windy Landscape and Classic. I'd argue Poltergeist actually deserves it's insane demon rating, even if barely. The small update Andromeda added gave us a terrible timing at the very end of the build-up. That crazy timing, along with one section of the wave being near extreme, is enough to outweigh the last 50% being medium demon. Otherwise, really good job with the list! I've been trying a lot of them lately and I'm hoping to get that insane demon number up to 50  |
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Post by Ezel on Feb 15, 2019 7:57:34 GMT -5
I still think Ghost Temple really needs to be on the list. The 1st 40% is, admittedly, pretty hard. The ball at 48% has a few tricky timings, but nothing close to Despair timings. Everything else from 40-77 is easy/medium demon difficulty. UFO at 77% is hard, but similar to the UFO parts in Despair. 83 to the end is all easy. There's no way this level can be harder than Windy Landscape and Classic. I'd argue Poltergeist actually deserves it's insane demon rating, even if barely. The small update Andromeda added gave us a terrible timing at the very end of the build-up. That crazy timing, along with one section of the wave being near extreme, is enough to outweigh the last 50% being medium demon. Otherwise, really good job with the list! I've been trying a lot of them lately and I'm hoping to get that insane demon number up to 50 I'll play Ghost Temple myself later and check if it deserves to be on the list. From what I've seen on the video, most of it seems to be memorization. Well, Poltergeist is for me on the edge of a hard demon, something similar to levels like Supersonic or Plasma Pulse. The majority of the level isn't too bad but there's always that one part that's either stupidly difficult or inconsistent. Also the beginning isn't that hard even after the buff, it's just annoying. I may eventually move Poltergeist to the "easy on 144hz" list, as I guess timings like these and wave are a bit easier on 144hz. Good luck on your demon grinding. EDIT: Okay, so I played Ghost Temple and I can agree that most of the difficulty comes from the memorization and the annoying amount of triple spikes. I think it's probably a solid hard demon, I wouldn't be sure if it's easier than WL or not, but I think it's not hard enough to be an insane demon. I also added Zirokabi. I played this level in practice mode a few days ago, and apart from the ship at around 30% it's relatively easily skill-wise. Once you memorize all the transitions it shouldn't be too bad. |
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Post by Cyclo on Feb 15, 2019 22:11:34 GMT -5
Add BuTiTi II. It's now an Insane Demon lol.
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Post by HexagonGD on Feb 16, 2019 2:47:24 GMT -5
Add BuTiTi II. It's now an Insane Demon lol. It's way harder than any of the other ones listed. XL level with a hard/insane demon 2nd half |
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Post by Ezel on Feb 16, 2019 5:34:49 GMT -5
Add BuTiTi II. It's now an Insane Demon lol. Honestly I don't know. BuTiTi II is comparable to Dark Travel in terms of difficulty, so I could see people considering it a borderline insane demon if they're going for all coins. I might eventually add it to the "easy on 144hz" section. |
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