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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 5:30:30 GMT -5
I still don't know what hz exactly is...
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Post by AlFas on Aug 15, 2016 15:13:24 GMT -5
I still don't know what hz exactly is... Hz is a measurement unit to show the frequency of an event per second. For example, 1 Hz means 1 occurrence of an event per second, 2 Hz means 2 occurrences of an event per second, etc. In this case, we talk about refresh rate which means how often a monitor refreshes to produce a new image. For 60 Hz we have 60 refreshes per second, which equals to viewing videos of up to 60FPS, whereas 144 Hz monitors refresh 144 times per second and you are able to see videos up to 144FPS. That does not mean you cannot see videos which have higher FPS (frame rate) than your monitor's refresh rate, but your screen may not be able to produce that many frames. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 15:43:57 GMT -5
Ok thx
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Post by Etrius on Aug 16, 2016 14:44:36 GMT -5
I swear to god is this 144hz bs still going on
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Post by goldenzdude on Aug 16, 2016 17:00:38 GMT -5
human eye can only see 24 hz
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 11:24:08 GMT -5
human eye can only see 24 hz |
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Post by AlFas on Aug 17, 2016 11:24:30 GMT -5
human eye can only see 24 hz NO, it can actually catch up to 1000FPS whereas the difference is not big after the 150FPS. So, I won't stay hear listening to a random person saying stupid stuff without even knowing. First look it up and then be a part of this conversation. Nonsense talking and unbiased statements are not to be a part of this since this is the reason why this all started at first place. Just some stupid people making others feel bad because they either can't afford or simply do not wish to spend money on a 144Hz monitor which is believed to offer much better experience in a damn 2D game. NO IT DOES NOT HELP AS MUCH AS YOU THINK! Will you become a better player with a 144Hz monitor. NO you won't. So please shut up and learn that in Geometry Dash having a 144Hz monitor does only help you by 0.3%! That means you would do 0.3% less attempts in Bloodbath than you would normally do with a 60Hz one. Also the eye can catch up to 1000FPS as I stated before, as read on Wikipedia which I think is not invalid, right? |
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Post by Recillia on Aug 17, 2016 11:36:43 GMT -5
human eye can only see 24 hz NO, it can actually catch up to 1000FPS whereas the difference is not big after the 150FPS. So, I won't stay hear listening to a random person saying stupid stuff without even knowing. First look it up and then be a part of this conversation. Nonsense talking and unbiased statements are not to be a part of this since this is the reason why this all started at first place. Just some stupid people making others feel bad because they either can't afford or simply do not wish to spend money on a 144Hz monitor which is believed to offer much better experience in a damn 2D game. NO IT DOES NOT HELP AS MUCH AS YOU THINK! Will you become a better player with a 144Hz monitor. NO you won't. So please shut up and learn that in Geometry Dash having a 144Hz monitor does only help you by 0.3%! That means you would do 0.3% less attempts in Bloodbath than you would normally do with a 60Hz one. Also the eye can catch up to 1000FPS as I stated before, as read on Wikipedia which I think is not invalid, right? meme post |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 11:51:32 GMT -5
human eye can only see 24 hz NO, it can actually catch up to 1000FPS whereas the difference is not big after the 150FPS. So, I won't stay hear listening to a random person saying stupid stuff without even knowing. First look it up and then be a part of this conversation. Nonsense talking and unbiased statements are not to be a part of this since this is the reason why this all started at first place. Just some stupid people making others feel bad because they either can't afford or simply do not wish to spend money on a 144Hz monitor which is believed to offer much better experience in a damn 2D game. NO IT DOES NOT HELP AS MUCH AS YOU THINK! Will you become a better player with a 144Hz monitor. NO you won't. So please shut up and learn that in Geometry Dash having a 144Hz monitor does only help you by 0.3%! That means you would do 0.3% less attempts in Bloodbath than you would normally do with a 60Hz one. Also the eye can catch up to 1000FPS as I stated before, as read on Wikipedia which I think is not invalid, right? read his post again, he said 24 Hz not 24 fps |
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Post by Mercury on Aug 17, 2016 12:49:10 GMT -5
human eye can only see 24 hz NO, it can actually catch up to 1000FPS whereas the difference is not big after the 150FPS. So, I won't stay hear listening to a random person saying stupid stuff without even knowing. First look it up and then be a part of this conversation. Nonsense talking and unbiased statements are not to be a part of this since this is the reason why this all started at first place. Just some stupid people making others feel bad because they either can't afford or simply do not wish to spend money on a 144Hz monitor which is believed to offer much better experience in a damn 2D game. NO IT DOES NOT HELP AS MUCH AS YOU THINK! Will you become a better player with a 144Hz monitor. NO you won't. So please shut up and learn that in Geometry Dash having a 144Hz monitor does only help you by 0.3%! That means you would do 0.3% less attempts in Bloodbath than you would normally do with a 60Hz one. Also the eye can catch up to 1000FPS as I stated before, as read on Wikipedia which I think is not invalid, right? Exactly the opposite, it helps WAY MORE than you seem to think. Will you become a better player with a 144hz monitor? Oh yes you will. Riot (said straight he wouldn't be skilled without his monitor), Surv, Quasar, Souls, Andromeda (admitted it helps a lot), Brandon Larkin (admitted it helps a lot and that it definitely has an effect on the game), Powerbomb (couldn't pass Michigun's part on 60hz, after getting 144hz, got 89% in Bloodbath in a few days playing only an hour a day), and even GuitarHeroStyles, who, after getting 144hz, beat old Cataclysm and is now attempting Bloodbath. The "coincidences" happen way more often for 144hz to only be considered a placebo effect. I have played on 144hz, and there are literally no words to describe the effect, particularly on the ship. I hadn't passed Crack's part in Bloodbath on 60hz ever, now I'm fairly consistent at it playing on 144hz. Let's just throw Powerbomb's description here, shall we? "Well, now that I can play on 144hz, I can tell you, there's a huge difference between 60 and 144hz and fps... first off, gd is atleast 2x smoother, and there's absolutely no input delay and the control I have on my ship is inhuman. This is the proof, on 60hz I couldn't pass michi's part, and now all of a sudden in 2 days with 144hz I got 89 (playing only 1/2 hours per day...) so yeah, that's what 144hz does." A couple of comments by SrGuillester. gyazo.com/ea02ff714b530591cae24eff49daeecagyazo.com/1e85b1ad671a6852a5ea7483bc6b7f05If you watch Brandon Larkin's videos then you can see in multiple of them how he describes the effect it has. 144hz isn't a placebo, it can't be. |
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Post by goldenzdude on Aug 17, 2016 18:21:22 GMT -5
lmao
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Post by AlFas on Aug 18, 2016 10:09:16 GMT -5
NO, it can actually catch up to 1000FPS whereas the difference is not big after the 150FPS. So, I won't stay hear listening to a random person saying stupid stuff without even knowing. First look it up and then be a part of this conversation. Nonsense talking and unbiased statements are not to be a part of this since this is the reason why this all started at first place. Just some stupid people making others feel bad because they either can't afford or simply do not wish to spend money on a 144Hz monitor which is believed to offer much better experience in a damn 2D game. NO IT DOES NOT HELP AS MUCH AS YOU THINK! Will you become a better player with a 144Hz monitor. NO you won't. So please shut up and learn that in Geometry Dash having a 144Hz monitor does only help you by 0.3%! That means you would do 0.3% less attempts in Bloodbath than you would normally do with a 60Hz one. Also the eye can catch up to 1000FPS as I stated before, as read on Wikipedia which I think is not invalid, right? Exactly the opposite, it helps WAY MORE than you seem to think. Will you become a better player with a 144hz monitor? Oh yes you will. Riot (said straight he wouldn't be skilled without his monitor), Surv, Quasar, Souls, Andromeda (admitted it helps a lot), Brandon Larkin (admitted it helps a lot and that it definitely has an effect on the game), Powerbomb (couldn't pass Michigun's part on 60hz, after getting 144hz, got 89% in Bloodbath in a few days playing only an hour a day), and even GuitarHeroStyles, who, after getting 144hz, beat old Cataclysm and is now attempting Bloodbath. The "coincidences" happen way more often for 144hz to only be considered a placebo effect. I have played on 144hz, and there are literally no words to describe the effect, particularly on the ship. I hadn't passed Crack's part in Bloodbath on 60hz ever, now I'm fairly consistent at it playing on 144hz. Let's just throw Powerbomb's description here, shall we? "Well, now that I can play on 144hz, I can tell you, there's a huge difference between 60 and 144hz and fps... first off, gd is atleast 2x smoother, and there's absolutely no input delay and the control I have on my ship is inhuman. This is the proof, on 60hz I couldn't pass michi's part, and now all of a sudden in 2 days with 144hz I got 89 (playing only 1/2 hours per day...) so yeah, that's what 144hz does." A couple of comments by SrGuillester. gyazo.com/ea02ff714b530591cae24eff49daeecagyazo.com/1e85b1ad671a6852a5ea7483bc6b7f05If you watch Brandon Larkin's videos then you can see in multiple of them how he describes the effect it has. 144hz isn't a placebo, it can't be. Okay I see your point there. But I am talking as GD in GENERAL which includes NOT just Demons, but every single level in the game. I don't mean anything that has to do with level editor, because you can even do your stuff on a 24Hz monitor, that's not the point. So you say there that there is a huge difference and it helps a lot. Yeah OK, but this means you only care about being a very highly skilled player and beat tons of Demons for breakfast like Surv, Michigun, Andromeda, etc. So that means you imply that GD is all about Demons after a certain skill point. NO, it is still a game which you play to enjoy. Many people who have gotten enough skill to play Demons have completely forgotten about of the existence of other ( non-Demon) levels which sometimes are much more worth playing than any Bloodbath or any Cataclysm or any Sakupen Hell. Yeah on hard Demons it is smoother, true that. The more frames you see the more likely you are to play well. But this does NOT help develop further skills. You just make use of them more easily. A newbie won't really do more in Stereo Madness if he had 144Hz. This just has to do with your skill level. The more skilled a player is the more is the difference on gameplay between 144Hz and 60Hz. I repeat, this does NOT help develop skills faster, you just make use of them more properly than you would on a 60Hz or even worse monitor. You can play better but I think I was talking about skills here and not gameplay experience. SURE it is smoother, the number says it all, but no, the skills are not to be improved faster in a 144Hz monitor. You can see more details in the game and due to that just react better, but only if you have the certain amount of skill for each occasion. |
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Post by Mercury on Aug 18, 2016 10:28:54 GMT -5
Exactly the opposite, it helps WAY MORE than you seem to think. Will you become a better player with a 144hz monitor? Oh yes you will. Riot (said straight he wouldn't be skilled without his monitor), Surv, Quasar, Souls, Andromeda (admitted it helps a lot), Brandon Larkin (admitted it helps a lot and that it definitely has an effect on the game), Powerbomb (couldn't pass Michigun's part on 60hz, after getting 144hz, got 89% in Bloodbath in a few days playing only an hour a day), and even GuitarHeroStyles, who, after getting 144hz, beat old Cataclysm and is now attempting Bloodbath. The "coincidences" happen way more often for 144hz to only be considered a placebo effect. I have played on 144hz, and there are literally no words to describe the effect, particularly on the ship. I hadn't passed Crack's part in Bloodbath on 60hz ever, now I'm fairly consistent at it playing on 144hz. Let's just throw Powerbomb's description here, shall we? "Well, now that I can play on 144hz, I can tell you, there's a huge difference between 60 and 144hz and fps... first off, gd is atleast 2x smoother, and there's absolutely no input delay and the control I have on my ship is inhuman. This is the proof, on 60hz I couldn't pass michi's part, and now all of a sudden in 2 days with 144hz I got 89 (playing only 1/2 hours per day...) so yeah, that's what 144hz does." A couple of comments by SrGuillester. gyazo.com/ea02ff714b530591cae24eff49daeecagyazo.com/1e85b1ad671a6852a5ea7483bc6b7f05If you watch Brandon Larkin's videos then you can see in multiple of them how he describes the effect it has. 144hz isn't a placebo, it can't be. Okay I see your point there. But I am talking as GD in GENERAL which includes NOT just Demons, but every single level in the game. I don't mean anything that has to do with level editor, because you can even do your stuff on a 24Hz monitor, that's not the point. So you say there that there is a huge difference and it helps a lot. Yeah OK, but this means you only care about being a very highly skilled player and beat tons of Demons for breakfast like Surv, Michigun, Andromeda, etc. So that means you imply that GD is all about Demons after a certain skill point. NO, it is still a game which you play to enjoy. Many people who have gotten enough skill to play Demons have completely forgotten about of the existence of other ( non-Demon) levels which sometimes are much more worth playing than any Bloodbath or any Cataclysm or any Sakupen Hell. Yeah on hard Demons it is smoother, true that. The more frames you see the more likely you are to play well. But this does NOT help develop further skills. You just make use of them more easily. A newbie won't really do more in Stereo Madness if he had 144Hz. This just has to do with your skill level. The more skilled a player is the more is the difference on gameplay between 144Hz and 60Hz. I repeat, this does NOT help develop skills faster, you just make use of them more properly than you would on a 60Hz or even worse monitor. You can play better but I think I was talking about skills here and not gameplay experience. SURE it is smoother, the number says it all, but no, the skills are not to be improved faster in a 144Hz monitor. You can see more details in the game and due to that just react better, but only if you have the certain amount of skill for each occasion. It does help you develop skills faster. Riot is a perfect example, before getting 144hz his hardest demon was Deadly Clubstep, after getting the monitor he beat 3 of the hardest demons in 4 days. Two months later he beat the hardest demon this game had ever seen. He could not have beaten Bloodbath if he didn't have the necessary "skill". And that skill he gained magically after getting a 144hz monitor, what's up with that? "A newbie won't really do more in Stereo Madness if he had 144Hz. This just has to do with your skill level. The more skilled a player is the more is the difference on gameplay between 144Hz and 60Hz." A newcomer won't go into beating Bloodbath right after getting 144hz, that is true. But 144hz really does help "develop skill" faster... I mean, if you beat Cataclysm then you're more skilled than you were before, right? And 144hz definitely helps you do that, beat hard stuff much faster, thus increasing skill much faster. "You can see more details in the game and due to that just react better, but only if you have the certain amount of skill for each occasion." You won't see more details in the level (unless you mean response time, which (assuming 5ms vs 1ms) does eliminate the ghosting effect), you simply see new frames faster. And there's a huge difference between 60 and 144hz. There's even a noticeable difference between 60 and 75hz. If you have 144hz you simply have the ability to react faster, and yes while it [your reaction time] does depend on the skill level, the monitor really has its share. It also depends on how you define "skill". In my case it means [if you're skilled] beating hard demons faster, not just general levels, also depending on your "experience" with the game, if you know what I mean. |
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Post by AlFas on Aug 19, 2016 7:43:51 GMT -5
Okay I see your point there. But I am talking as GD in GENERAL which includes NOT just Demons, but every single level in the game. I don't mean anything that has to do with level editor, because you can even do your stuff on a 24Hz monitor, that's not the point. So you say there that there is a huge difference and it helps a lot. Yeah OK, but this means you only care about being a very highly skilled player and beat tons of Demons for breakfast like Surv, Michigun, Andromeda, etc. So that means you imply that GD is all about Demons after a certain skill point. NO, it is still a game which you play to enjoy. Many people who have gotten enough skill to play Demons have completely forgotten about of the existence of other ( non-Demon) levels which sometimes are much more worth playing than any Bloodbath or any Cataclysm or any Sakupen Hell. Yeah on hard Demons it is smoother, true that. The more frames you see the more likely you are to play well. But this does NOT help develop further skills. You just make use of them more easily. A newbie won't really do more in Stereo Madness if he had 144Hz. This just has to do with your skill level. The more skilled a player is the more is the difference on gameplay between 144Hz and 60Hz. I repeat, this does NOT help develop skills faster, you just make use of them more properly than you would on a 60Hz or even worse monitor. You can play better but I think I was talking about skills here and not gameplay experience. SURE it is smoother, the number says it all, but no, the skills are not to be improved faster in a 144Hz monitor. You can see more details in the game and due to that just react better, but only if you have the certain amount of skill for each occasion. It does help you develop skills faster. Riot is a perfect example, before getting 144hz his hardest demon was Deadly Clubstep, after getting the monitor he beat 3 of the hardest demons in 4 days. Two months later he beat the hardest demon this game had ever seen. He could not have beaten Bloodbath if he didn't have the necessary "skill". And that skill he gained magically after getting a 144hz monitor, what's up with that? "A newbie won't really do more in Stereo Madness if he had 144Hz. This just has to do with your skill level. The more skilled a player is the more is the difference on gameplay between 144Hz and 60Hz." A newcomer won't go into beating Bloodbath right after getting 144hz, that is true. But 144hz really does help "develop skill" faster... I mean, if you beat Cataclysm then you're more skilled than you were before, right? And 144hz definitely helps you do that, beat hard stuff much faster, thus increasing skill much faster. "You can see more details in the game and due to that just react better, but only if you have the certain amount of skill for each occasion." You won't see more details in the level (unless you mean response time, which (assuming 5ms vs 1ms) does eliminate the ghosting effect), you simply see new frames faster. And there's a huge difference between 60 and 144hz. There's even a noticeable difference between 60 and 75hz. If you have 144hz you simply have the ability to react faster, and yes while it [your reaction time] does depend on the skill level, the monitor really has its share. It also depends on how you define "skill". In my case it means [if you're skilled] beating hard demons faster, not just general levels, also depending on your "experience" with the game, if you know what I mean. Okay, okay. You have many points there which I cannot disagree with, but IS THIS ALL WORTH IT? I mean should we kill all the GD players who have monitors with less than 144Hz or even in the worst case MOBILE PHONES AND TABLETS?! No we shouldn't. 144Hz monitors offer better experience which I haven't experienced myself so IDK. Yet, as this be NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO ACCUSE AND BEHAVE AWFULLY TO ANYONE WITH EQUIPMENT WORSE THAN THEM! Did ever say anything bad to Michigun because he uses a mobile device to play? Nope, I didn't. |
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Post by AlFas on Aug 19, 2016 7:47:32 GMT -5
NO, it can actually catch up to 1000FPS whereas the difference is not big after the 150FPS. So, I won't stay hear listening to a random person saying stupid stuff without even knowing. First look it up and then be a part of this conversation. Nonsense talking and unbiased statements are not to be a part of this since this is the reason why this all started at first place. Just some stupid people making others feel bad because they either can't afford or simply do not wish to spend money on a 144Hz monitor which is believed to offer much better experience in a damn 2D game. NO IT DOES NOT HELP AS MUCH AS YOU THINK! Will you become a better player with a 144Hz monitor. NO you won't. So please shut up and learn that in Geometry Dash having a 144Hz monitor does only help you by 0.3%! That means you would do 0.3% less attempts in Bloodbath than you would normally do with a 60Hz one. Also the eye can catch up to 1000FPS as I stated before, as read on Wikipedia which I think is not invalid, right? read his post again, he said 24 Hz not 24 fpsWhich is the exact same thing. 24 occurrences per second (Hz) or 24 images per second (FPS) is the exact same thing.
I don't have a diploma in medicine but I know that the human eye can see WAY more than 24 damn FPS or Hz or whatever you like calling. The brain receives way more messages per second than just 24! Not to say even more than 240! |
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