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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 10:33:05 GMT -5
Creator points are a reward to people who make levels so removing that would give most creators no reason to create levels anymore
Removing the creator leaderboard though isn't a horrible idea
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 10:43:56 GMT -5
Creator points are a reward to people who make levels so removing that would give most creators no reason to create levels anymore Removing the creator leaderboard though isn't a horrible idea
The reward is the feeling of acomplishment Yah I believe that. Most creators don't |
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Post by Dragon on Feb 20, 2018 10:54:57 GMT -5
If you remove creator points, then what would separate a regular rated level from an epic level. There's no feeling of accomplishment if you aren't given anything for your hard work. I could create a mediocre level just barely good enough to get rated, and without CP, it'd be on the same level as Mastergame, BuTiTi II, etc, since there'd be no divider. There's no other way to divide it besides CP, so CP is the best option.
The creator leaderboard may be good to remove though.
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Post by Hya on Feb 20, 2018 11:06:49 GMT -5
If you remove creator points, then what would separate a regular rated level from an epic level. There's no feeling of accomplishment if you aren't given anything for your hard work. I could create a mediocre level just barely good enough to get rated, and without CP, it'd be on the same level as Mastergame, BuTiTi II, etc, since there'd be no divider. There's no other way to divide it besides CP, so CP is the best option.
The creator leaderboard may be good to remove though. I'm quite sure the fact that a level can get rated, featured or epic already is a divider though. wtf i was afk when making this post and got ninjad |
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Post by flash on Feb 20, 2018 15:49:35 GMT -5
speaking as a creator who was just lucky enough to get an epic rated level, if anybody were to take that away from me i would literally attempt to eat them whole.
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Post by VegetarianBacon on Feb 20, 2018 17:04:08 GMT -5
I think it's good to have them because they're the only stat that isn't player-based.
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Post by flash on Feb 21, 2018 0:24:58 GMT -5
speaking as a creator who was just lucky enough to get an epic rated level, if anybody were to take that away from me i would literally attempt to eat them whole.
You didn't read my post. I wasn't talking about taking away your epic rated level. I was talking about taking away your CP and everyone else's CP.thats like what im saying. CP is incredibly hard to get and it feels so good to get it, really. i don't think you know because you dont create levels, but when i get a featured level or something it is the best day of that week by far and it puts me in a good mood. also, i did read your post. i'm not nine years old like you |
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Post by KatsuTG on Feb 21, 2018 4:11:12 GMT -5
i think short answer, it does more bad than good
ok im not tired anymore
I really don't think the community would stand for it, it adds variety to the game, and gives a reason for created levels to exist, so creators can create, just as players can play. removing this is like asking to remove stars and the player leaderboards
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Post by Serponge on Feb 21, 2018 7:25:28 GMT -5
Please don't take away all my hard work, I'm literally almost top 3 I really don't want to have done all this for nothing thanks
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Post by motleyorc on Feb 21, 2018 7:39:45 GMT -5
I have worked tirelessly for hundreds of hours to get my CP, it serves as a metric for experience and level quality. You don't get to take that away from me, I don't care who you are.
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Post by VegetarianBacon on Feb 21, 2018 7:40:17 GMT -5
If you remove creator points, then what would separate a regular rated level from an epic level.(1)There's no feeling of accomplishment if you aren't given anything for your hard work.(2) I could create a mediocre level just barely good enough to get rated, and without CP, it'd be on the same level as Mastergame, BuTiTi II, etc, since there'd be no divider.(3) There's no other way to divide it besides CP, so CP is the best option.(4) The creator leaderboard may be good to remove though.
1. The amount of likes, the popularity and the offical rating.
2. Yes there is, you get a higher rating and more people play your level.
3. Yes there is a divider. The divider is rated, featured and epic.
4. I've proved this wrong in 1 2 and 3 already
You created a suggestion, not an argument. You're supposed to be open-minded. And no OT because I made a legit response to this thread a little up. |
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Post by Ezel on Feb 21, 2018 7:54:08 GMT -5
That's a really bad idea. I know that some people farm CP but there are still people that have a lot of CP but they spend a ton of time to create good levels. It's not good to generalize just because some people are hunting for fame.
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Post by âś©Speed The Weebâś© on Feb 21, 2018 7:57:15 GMT -5
Hmm. I'd rather have a replacement for the leaderboard.
What about a leaderboard for the most followed person instead of Creator Board...
Also the removal of CP makes people less motivated to make levels.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 8:31:56 GMT -5
a level getting rated is a physical and visible distinction of quality. it's like an "A-certified" banner of creating, as motley said. the system isn't perfect, and generic levels are a side effect, but if you take away CP completely, there's almost no motivation to create. so what if your level gets likes? any level can get likes. there are wave challenges and fernanfloo levels with 100k and more likes, but that doesn't mean anything.
another good thing about rated levels is that they bring attention to your level (most of the time). if I created an amazing level, even if I uploaded it to yt (how many subs do I have? 10?) it wouldn't get much attention. the only real way for an unnoticed creator to get attention is by asking a mod to send it to Robtop, so that it can get rated, and in turn bring attention to the creator.
also, your argument against Dragon is fucking retarded. Dragon said “without CP there’s no distinction between quality and average”, and you refute it with “the distinction is rated, feature and epic”. what the fuck are you even saying, Dragon’s statement is a hypothetical scenario assuming your dogshit suggestion is implemented, and you just completely digress off the point. I get that you’re username is poopdrinker but stop spouting all the shit you drink out of your fucking mouth. in debater terms, you refute an argument attacking the scenario you are defending by citing evidence from the exact same scenario you are attacking. great fucking job, here’s a medal for not learning jackshit since the second levelution thread.
CP has its downsides, but overall it brings more good than harm.
to sum up my points:
1. likes and positive feedback aren't sufficient motivation to spend hours working on a level
2. levels getting rated are one of the only ways to bring attention to unnoticed creators
3. stop being an autistic close-minded imbecile cunt and learn to accept that you are in the wrong. instead of addressing the concerns of others you just blow it off with “oh too bad for those dumb fucks I’m in the right here”
4. motley and serponge gave some pretty good rebuttals too I’d suggest you read them and get the message through your thick, stubborn fucking skull
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 9:52:20 GMT -5
No no no, that's too dumb.
Yes, having the Creator Leaderboards might be a bad thing, given the fact that RobTop has a thing for simple levels, but removing them? That's a bit harsh.
And removing CP.. No. Look below here.
- Why should we keep the Creator Leaderboards?
This is simple enough to explain. CP is a measure of a creator having made such a good level, that the level is to award stars, thereby promoting the level to show off the creators hard work. Right? Now take a look at, say, stars. If we remove the creator leaderboards, shouldn't we, by that logic remove the top 100? After all, Knobbelboy verified Bloodlust, and he is just over 6000 stars. The Top 100 isn't essentially the top percentage of players, and it isn't relevant for other than showing off those who are persistent enough to grind those puzzling amounts of stars. By the same logic, the Creator Leaderboards show off people who are able to create a lot of good levels, and keep making them over a long period of time. Therefore, removing the creator leaderboards isn't going to have that much of an effect, as all you do is take away the recognizing of the creators who can pump out levels that are considered quality levels, and keep doing such over a long time.
And for your argument of removing CP.. Same points as above, really.
Nevertheless, you would have been lynched if you removed those, as they're a staple feature for a lot of creators in GD. So, no.
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