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Post by respectable username on Feb 27, 2017 2:39:59 GMT -5
How does monitor FPS impact the game exactly? All the physics changes and bugs are caused by the higher fps how are the physics of the game changed by the fps of a monitor? |
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Post by vitesse on Feb 27, 2017 4:13:39 GMT -5
they also have an input lag of 1ms not necessarily. a.co/2Znr0oSthis has a 2ms response time, and with some other monitors it can go up to 4ms like this: www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236466On the actual gameplay differences, all it really does is make flying easier, I'd even argue that it makes things like spamming and timing harder, especially if you were practicing a level with 60hz and transitioned into 144hz. here's where it varies person-to-person. 144hz affects all modes noticably and it makes flying massively easier for me in particular, while this isn't the case for you how are the physics of the game changed by the fps of a monitor? i'm assuming geometry dash is dumb and the refresh rate of the physics engine is determined by the fps the game is running at. usually this doesn't go above 60 so all is fine on that front, but with 144hz it does and the physics runs differently, which causes some levels (ex. Heartbeat) to be impossible on 144hz. don't take my word as fact though, i'm no coder the main differences for most players are: some levels are made impossible as i mentioned above, and the game looks far better due to the smoothness. the differences difficulty-wise that 144hz makes only become really apparent when you start reaching top-end skill level (list demons or list-worthy unrated levels) and in other games, your aim will be noticably better (overwatch etc.) keep in mind that all of these side-effects only occur when you can actually run the game at 144fps |
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Post by TheKlappR on Feb 27, 2017 9:55:35 GMT -5
it is gud for str8 fly and controllz r ezier
also it breaks some levles liek catastrophic jajajaja
I'm not joking btw.
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Post by Hyderatic on Feb 28, 2017 2:13:48 GMT -5
Yea so 144hz monitors are good and all that, but then people say that some levels become impossible, where as with 60hz I think that all the levels are possible but just harder (extreme demons especially)
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Post by themeowingdog on Mar 5, 2017 3:07:35 GMT -5
What you are seeing and talking about is pixel response time. Pixel response time is not the same as input lag. Pixel response time determines the amount of ghosting, not the amount of time it takes to see your icon jumping after you click. That is called signal processing delay, which is not usually listed in a monitor's specs. Most 144hz monitors have 1ms pixel response time (less ghosting). However, signal processing delay varies more. The two most common 144hz monitors used by GD players, the ASUS VG248QE and the BenQ XL2411z (Zowie XL2411) do have similar input lag (basically the same to the human eye), however. The ASUS is a tiny bit over 2ms, while the BenQ is a tiny bit under, according to PCMonitors.info. However, some 144hz monitors do have more input lag than those two. For example, the AOC G2460PQU has 13ms of input lag (according to the same website), despite having 1ms response time. It even has the same panel as the other two. So, some 144hz 1ms monitors benefit players more than others.
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Post by NoctaFly on Mar 5, 2017 3:20:49 GMT -5
144hz help, but ms help more
look at superex's 0ms monitor
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Post by RekindL on Mar 6, 2017 6:46:20 GMT -5
with 60hz, gd runs at 60fps, while 144hz runs gd at 144fps, which allows people to actually input more clicks in a single second, so straight fly is much easier, although 144hz is slighty glitcher as gd does not fully support it
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Post by wattybangbang on Mar 6, 2017 11:43:29 GMT -5
144hz help, but ms help more look at superex's 0ms monitor yeah a few other things help players seem better than they actually are too, not sure if you know about them |
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Post by hasorigami on Mar 6, 2017 18:32:17 GMT -5
144hz help, but ms help more look at superex's 0ms monitor response time relies heavily on refresh rate tho I mean, a 1ms 60hz monitor is pretty useless because the monitor refreshes itself every 16ms, so it doesn't really matter. Same with 144hz, it updates itself every 8ms, so what really matters is the hz. |
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Post by the ghost who watches on Mar 7, 2017 17:45:53 GMT -5
no backup evidence besides "den hocum ppl wit 144hz are de unly ppl whu bet bludbat?" Dude we have so many evidences because of people's transitions. I know someone (hello Matrix ツ) who just beat fairydust as his hardest demon (I mean I think I'm too lazy to check), calling it insane demon, then getting 144 hz one month later, and another month after, he beat crimson clutter, calling it very hard demon. seriously. Oh yeah also just after getting 144 hz he beat poltergeist (by andro huh) and called it medium demon. like, 4 demon difficulties under fairydust (if we consider very hard demon and moderately hard demon) |
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Post by Gingie on Mar 7, 2017 19:49:09 GMT -5
no backup evidence besides "den hocum ppl wit 144hz are de unly ppl whu bet bludbat?" Dude we have so many evidences because of people's transitions. I know someone (hello Matrix ツ ) who just beat fairydust as his hardest demon (I mean I think I'm too lazy to check), calling it insane demon, then getting 144 hz one month later, and another month after, he beat crimson clutter, calling it very hard demon. seriously. Oh yeah also just after getting 144 hz he beat poltergeist (by andro huh) and called it medium demon. like, 4 demon difficulties under fairydust (if we consider very hard demon and moderately hard demon) That seems like a normal transition to me tbh, Fairydust -> Poltergeist -> Crimson Clutter Besides Crimson Clutter is at the bottom of the list now lmao |
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Post by Beany on Mar 7, 2017 20:35:52 GMT -5
I just got back from my brother's house, and he let me try out his 144hz monitor with GD. Keep in mind both my 60hz monitor and his 144hz monitor are both 1ms. So anyway, flying became quite a bit easier, and I could do that one straight fly in Red World Rebirth easily on his monitor, while keeping a pretty consistant straight fly. On my monitor, I can hardly do it at all.
In short, 144hz makes flying MUCH easier.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 1:23:53 GMT -5
To tell the differences between 60Hz and 144Hz, you need to know what Hz means. I'm assuming you already know what Hertz are, so skip this part if you don't.
Basically, Hertz is the amount of frames per second (FPS) your monitor can handle. Most cheap monitors use 60Hz/50Hz. With 60Hz monitors, the response time tends to be 5 milliseconds. That meaning the amount of time a click or type actually takes affect (I think).
The major differences with 144Hz are the following;
less blur,
smoother movement on the monitor (good for First Person Shooter games),
faster respinse time (usually 2-1 miliseconds),
easier to time action, and
faster reaction time.
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Post by the ghost who watches on Mar 8, 2017 10:46:18 GMT -5
Dude we have so many evidences because of people's transitions. I know someone (hello Matrix ツ ) who just beat fairydust as his hardest demon (I mean I think I'm too lazy to check), calling it insane demon, then getting 144 hz one month later, and another month after, he beat crimson clutter, calling it very hard demon. seriously. Oh yeah also just after getting 144 hz he beat poltergeist (by andro huh) and called it medium demon. like, 4 demon difficulties under fairydust (if we consider very hard demon and moderately hard demon) That seems like a normal transition to me tbh, Fairydust -> Poltergeist -> Crimson Clutter Besides Crimson Clutter is at the bottom of the list now lmao I'm not talkinv about the levels but the fact that crimson clutter was easier for him than fairydust, with only 2 monthes of difference |
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Post by Matrix ツ on Mar 8, 2017 13:55:25 GMT -5
no backup evidence besides "den hocum ppl wit 144hz are de unly ppl whu bet bludbat?" Dude we have so many evidences because of people's transitions. I know someone (hello Matrix ツ ) who just beat fairydust as his hardest demon (I mean I think I'm too lazy to check), calling it insane demon, then getting 144 hz one month later, and another month after, he beat crimson clutter, calling it very hard demon. seriously. Oh yeah also just after getting 144 hz he beat poltergeist (by andro huh) and called it medium demon. like, 4 demon difficulties under fairydust (if we consider very hard demon and moderately hard demon) Oh looky here. 144hz really helps with wave and ship gamemodes, just my two cents. |
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