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Post by LuMaIchArgI on Nov 8, 2016 0:12:48 GMT -5
If you don't want a child, there are two options: 1) don't have sex, 2) use a condom or some other medium. In my eyes, abortion is equal to murder. Just because a person is unborn doesn't mean that he/she isn't a person and isn't alive. The only scenario in which I think abortion could be a respectable option is if the parents knew what they were doing, weren't screwing around just for the fun of it, legitimately wanted a child, but the mother's life is on the line or some other very serious medical problem is causing very serious and legitimate problems. And since the OP was talking about America's current political situation, Hillary Clinton thinks it's okay to abort just hours before the child is born, but her excuse for her outlandish gun-control laws is "a toddler found a gun and shot and killed himself." I'm sorry, but I don't take gun advice from someone who thinks it's okay to murder unborn children. You could just give the child up for adotpion... There are a good amount of children who are adopted and abused, and adoption is not good for kids. I'm not against adopting and stuff cuz it's usually necessary, but it creates a mindset in the kid that their parents didn't love them, and even then, an adopted child won't be as loved as one that you gave birth to. And I see no wrong with aborting weeks before birth. If you don't want the child you don't want it, they have their reasons, if a person didn't want a baby and was forced to have it, do you think the child's going to have a happy life with parents who didn't want them? Also the baby is hardly conscious, aborting it is hardly murder, the baby has not formed many bonds, or memories except those insignificant it forgets son after birth. It's better to end it then, opposed to when it has experienced life and stuff to actually live for. In life we have to have priorities, whether you like it or not, the killing of a child who never truly "lived" is far better than abuse of a a child or murder of a human being that has actually lived long enough to form social interactions |
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Post by ✩Speed The Weeb✩ on Nov 8, 2016 3:25:44 GMT -5
Depends on the situation that got the woman pregnant.
Just happened, because a dingus forgot a fucking condom and came inside: You're both morons, deal with it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 4:22:36 GMT -5
Nov 7, 2016 11:02:38 GMT -7 LuMaIchArgI said:You could just give the child up for adotpion... No way would I do that, I would rather get told that santa isn't real. |
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Post by kiriE on Nov 8, 2016 4:56:22 GMT -5
Abortions should indeed be allowed, it's the mother's choice, and only her's. If she doesn't want to have a baby, either because she's very young, or other reasons, she should independently decide if she's willing to give birth to the child or not. Please realize that it is in fact THEIR job to give birth, and that's no easy task. And no that does not mean I LIKE abortions, I don't like that people basically kills their baby, but I have nothing to do with it. It's basically not my business. Only my opinion though...
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Post by Mechanguis on Nov 8, 2016 5:48:45 GMT -5
Like many other people have said already, abortion should be legal because it should be the mother's choice whether or not they want to have their baby aborted or not since they're the one giving birth to them. That being said, it should be allowed up until a certain month since after a while (5-6 months I think?) the fetus becomes too big and developed for it to be aborted without harming the mother.
Also, I don't think any mother should be restricted from being able to do so just because they consented to having sex without protection. Not only is it hard to tell what caused the mother to get pregnant, but there are also times where the mother changes her mind and decides that she can't handle raising a child for the time being. And being unprepared/unwilling to raise a child will be bad for the two of them. Having an abortion as a back-out option isn't perfect but it's better than having nothing.
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Post by megaman9 on Nov 8, 2016 9:48:15 GMT -5
Depends on the situation. Woman got raped and pregnant: Yes Woman was an idiot and got pregnant from some dude without a condom: No true but how do you know what happened? Tbh, literally any girl can lie about her pregnancy and they only way to find out if they're telling the truth is if the dude fesses up (prob not gonna happen), there's a witness (why tf would you do it in front of someone else tho) or if you put a lie detector test on every girl that says she was forced to get pregnant.Lie detectors are inaccurate |
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Post by Retired moderator. on Nov 8, 2016 10:44:21 GMT -5
I really dislike the idea of abortions. I get it in the cases where the mother's life is at risk, but nearly all other situations have other, non lethal methods. Most unwanted pregnancies come from irresponsible couples. In that case, it's the mothers/father's fault. I can see why people would want one if their child is from rape, but again, there are other, non lethal ways to get out of this situation. Not going to lie, my faith probably has something to do with my stance, but I really do think that an unborn baby is just as important as a newborn. If you don't want a child, there are two options: 1) don't have sex, 2) use a condom or some other medium. In my eyes, abortion is equal to murder. Just because a person is unborn doesn't mean that he/she isn't a person and isn't alive. The only scenario in which I think abortion could be a respectable option is if the parents knew what they were doing, weren't screwing around just for the fun of it, legitimately wanted a child, but the mother's life is on the line or some other very serious medical problem is causing very serious and legitimate problems. And since the OP was talking about America's current political situation, Hillary Clinton thinks it's okay to abort just hours before the child is born, but her excuse for her outlandish gun-control laws is "a toddler found a gun and shot and killed himself." I'm sorry, but I don't take gun advice from someone who thinks it's okay to murder unborn children. You could just give the child up for adotpion... There are a good amount of children who are adopted and abused, and adoption is not good for kids. I'm not against adopting and stuff cuz it's usually necessary, but it creates a mindset in the kid that their parents didn't love them, and even then, an adopted child won't be as loved as one that you gave birth to. And I see no wrong with aborting weeks before birth. If you don't want the child you don't want it, they have their reasons, if a person didn't want a baby and was forced to have it, do you think the child's going to have a happy life with parents who didn't want them? Also the baby is hardly conscious, aborting it is hardly murder, the baby has not formed many bonds, or memories except those insignificant it forgets son after birth. It's better to end it then, opposed to when it has experienced life and stuff to actually live for. In life we have to have priorities, whether you like it or not, the killing of a child who never truly "lived" is far better than abuse of a a child or murder of a human being that has actually lived long enough to form social interactions This is where I draw the line. If you were to take the baby out at that point, it would live a normal life. At that point, you're killing a newborn |
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Post by Ezel on Nov 8, 2016 11:28:32 GMT -5
It also depends on the period of pregnancy. If it's hardly even a baby, because most organs weren't even formed properly, it might look less brutal that way. If it's a very early fetus, it might look less scary for people to decide on abortions. Also we should remember that abortion isn't that violent like it's showed in most of the times. Yeah, earlier it was really very drastic, but the current methods aren't that bad compared to what was going on much earlier. Of course the woman should think before she does that, because as some said, the couple should think before they decide to have sex...
But well, even with a condom, we can't be sure something will went wrong. I think there were some situations like that, so I think they don't make stuff 100% sure, but I agree that it's much much safer that way.
I partially agree that babies should be given for adoption if their parents don't want them due to some situations, however the thing is that people recognise adopted children as those who aren't loved by their parents. While it sounds like a stupid stereotype, there are people like this which believe in this. The feeling of being a parent probably isn't as strong as naturally when a baby has been adopted, so it might be another thing some people would be scared about. However adoption's good side is that some couples in which at least one of these is unable to reproduce, have a way to create a some kind of family. There's also stuff like in vitro, but it's very expensive.
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Post by gbc on Nov 8, 2016 12:33:36 GMT -5
It should be legal, if: -mother was raped -mother's life is in the risk -it is confirmed that child will be invalid in future lifetime -mother is under 16 btw. our(Polish) government wants to give every mother who bdecides to born a child with unhealable retardness etc. 4000PLN (a bit more than 1000$), which won't be enough to take care about that child for even a month
yeah
more invalid people on the streets
yeah
they can't work and, this may sound very cruelish, but this is the truth, are useless
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Post by LuMaIchArgI on Nov 8, 2016 16:14:58 GMT -5
So many people are saying it shouldn't be allowed if the parents were irresponsible, why would you want irresponsible parents taking care of a baby :/
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Post by tybables on Nov 9, 2016 7:08:19 GMT -5
If you had been that one of aborted kid, what would have you felt. That is extremly painful intervention for killed child because it is teared. THERE ISN'T ANY HUMANITAR WAY TO KILL UNBORN KIDS CURRENTLY. Only reason to abort children should be danger of child's mom death. However, disabled kids shouldn't be killed insomuch as most of those killed had down syndrome which don't affect to much on health. The people afflicted of this syndrome are love every minute of their lives and they are very nice to every human.
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Post by GDJames on Nov 9, 2016 11:36:32 GMT -5
Abortions should be allowed
Too bad we elected donald trump as president
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Post by tybables on Nov 9, 2016 12:19:42 GMT -5
Abortions should be allowed Too bad we elected donald trump as president I see you're already born. Is the feeling of being rejected by parents good for you, mhm? I can say that you are for killing because abortion is killing, simple, isn't it? And it isn't the matter of religion but matter of morality which everybody should have. |
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Post by LuMaIchArgI on Nov 9, 2016 12:58:06 GMT -5
Abortions should be allowed Too bad we elected donald trump as president I see you're already born. Is the feeling of being rejected by parents good for you, mhm? I can say that you are for killing because abortion is killing, simple, isn't it? And it isn't the matter of religion but matter of morality which everybody should have. Abortion is hardly murder lol, killing something with no vivid memories, experiences, that's still developing into a full human, etc. shouldn't be valued the same as killing a healthy functioning alive human being I assume you want the parents to give birth to an unwanted child, then what? The child is still unwanted, nothing has changed, I'd rather there be a dead unborn child then one that is born with parents that don't want it |
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Post by GDJames on Nov 9, 2016 15:00:20 GMT -5
Abortions should be allowed Too bad we elected donald trump as president I see you're already born. Is the feeling of being rejected by parents good for you, mhm? I can say that you are for killing because abortion is killing, simple, isn't it? And it isn't the matter of religion but matter of morality which everybody should have. An unborn baby is unborn, so it can't feel that feeling of, "rejected". |
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