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Post by geometricbutton on Aug 15, 2016 13:05:21 GMT -5
Also, is SH harder than sonic wave?
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Post by Ezel on Aug 15, 2016 13:08:23 GMT -5
I'd say Sakupen Hell. Even if BB is twice as long, it never had such tight tunnels like SH had in the waves. The waves in this level are insanity (especially that second version, I wish someone would do it with the nerfed ending).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 13:16:31 GMT -5
I honestly don't know  Sakupen hell is harder but shorter. And imo Trusta's attempts don't really tell much, Sakupen hell seems like one of those levels where you die half a second later you spawn with start pos all the time, adding a bunch of attempts xd They are difficult in different ways so it's hard for me to tell |
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Post by hinds on Aug 15, 2016 13:54:35 GMT -5
Sakupen Hell is just too short to pass Bloodbath I think. Yes, the waves are crazier than anything in Bloodbath, but they are only about half of an already really short level, while Bloodbath is 2 minutes of consistent extreme difficulty. Trusta will also have more attempts for the same reason Surv and Krazy had many attempts on CD, which is that certain parts of the level really eat up attempts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 13:59:20 GMT -5
Sakupen Hell is just too short to pass Bloodbath I think. Yes, the waves are crazier than anything in Bloodbath, but they are only about half of an already really short level, while Bloodbath is 2 minutes of consistent extreme difficulty. Trusta will also have more attempts for the same reason Surv and Krazy had many attempts on CD, which is that certain parts of the level really eat up attempts. |
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Post by Attractor on Aug 16, 2016 0:33:04 GMT -5
Sakupen Hell is just too short to pass Bloodbath I think. Yes, the waves are crazier than anything in Bloodbath, but they are only about half of an already really short level, while Bloodbath is 2 minutes of consistent extreme difficulty. Trusta will also have more attempts for the same reason Surv and Krazy had many attempts on CD, which is that certain parts of the level really eat up attempts. Well, Lightwave is a good example. Lightwave is only 50 seconds long, which is 6 times shorter than Lonely Travel. By that logic, people will have more attempts on Lightwave than LT because the first dual and the ast wave eat attempts? haha, no Length doesn't mean anything lol |
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Post by hinds on Aug 16, 2016 6:00:24 GMT -5
Sakupen Hell is just too short to pass Bloodbath I think. Yes, the waves are crazier than anything in Bloodbath, but they are only about half of an already really short level, while Bloodbath is 2 minutes of consistent extreme difficulty. Trusta will also have more attempts for the same reason Surv and Krazy had many attempts on CD, which is that certain parts of the level really eat up attempts. Well, Lightwave is a good example. Lightwave is only 50 seconds long, which is 6 times shorter than Lonely Travel. By that logic, people will have more attempts on Lightwave than LT because the first dual and the ast wave eat attempts? haha, no Length doesn't mean anything lol That's the stupidest thing someone has said to me in a while. Yes, people will have more attempts on Lightwave than Lonely Travel because Lonely Travel is fucking easy, and length ABOSLUTELY makes a difference when it's as much as one minute. Imagine BB was only a minute long where the end of the level was like the end of Crack's part. Sure, obviously still hard, but there are many people who would've beaten it by now (Including some 60hz players) and it definitely wouldn't make #1 on the list, and all that isn't to mention that stress factors in too. When it feels like you are getting far on a long level, you start to feel pressure, but you could still have like 1 more minute of the level left to go. |
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Post by Attractor on Aug 16, 2016 6:16:56 GMT -5
Well, Lightwave is a good example. Lightwave is only 50 seconds long, which is 6 times shorter than Lonely Travel. By that logic, people will have more attempts on Lightwave than LT because the first dual and the ast wave eat attempts? haha, no Length doesn't mean anything lol That's the stupidest thing someone has said to me in a while. Yes, people will have more attempts on Lightwave than Lonely Travel because Lonely Travel is ****ing easy, and length ABOSLUTELY makes a difference when it's as much as one minute. Imagine BB was only a minute long where the end of the level was like the end of Crack's part. Sure, obviously still hard, but there are many people who would've beaten it by now (Including some 60hz players) and it definitely wouldn't make #1 on the list, and all that isn't to mention that stress factors in too. When it feels like you are getting far on a long level, you start to feel pressure, but you could still have like 1 more minute of the level left to go. yeah, I sound stupid. SH has many wave parts, and they're at least as hard as Michi's part on BB. There also is one mini wave part at the ending, it's hard even without stress, and stress makes it even harder. Also, what kind of 60hz people do you mean? I'm not sure anyone will beat it on 60hz |
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Post by hinds on Aug 16, 2016 8:56:35 GMT -5
That's the stupidest thing someone has said to me in a while. Yes, people will have more attempts on Lightwave than Lonely Travel because Lonely Travel is ****ing easy, and length ABOSLUTELY makes a difference when it's as much as one minute. Imagine BB was only a minute long where the end of the level was like the end of Crack's part. Sure, obviously still hard, but there are many people who would've beaten it by now (Including some 60hz players) and it definitely wouldn't make #1 on the list, and all that isn't to mention that stress factors in too. When it feels like you are getting far on a long level, you start to feel pressure, but you could still have like 1 more minute of the level left to go. yeah, I sound stupid. SH has many wave parts, and they're at least as hard as Michi's part on BB. There also is one mini wave part at the ending, it's hard even without stress, and stress makes it even harder. Also, what kind of 60hz people do you mean? I'm not sure anyone will beat it on 60hz Umm there are a few 60hz players who made it past the one minute mark in Bloodbath, just check the records list. |
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Post by geometricbutton on Aug 16, 2016 10:33:39 GMT -5
Nobody has answered the question in op yet.
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Post by ayy on Sept 25, 2016 17:49:25 GMT -5
dik
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 17:54:20 GMT -5
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Post by ayy on Sept 25, 2016 18:24:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 18:27:52 GMT -5
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Post by S3rios on Sept 25, 2016 21:29:14 GMT -5
Bloodbath is the harder one. Only about 1/2 of the parts in sakupen hell are hard, and those hard parts are harder then anything in bloodbath. BUT: pretty much every non-wave part is sakupen hell is barely even top 50 list worthy. The duel spam part is a joke, the ufo is a medium difficulty part, and the rocket part is hard but nothing compared to bloodbath. The one thing that might have convinced me sakupen hell was the hardest was the final duel wave. Now, if you're wondering what I mean when I say "duel wave," Apparently, noobas released 2 versions of sakupen hell: the original, with miniship straight fly at the end and the one Trusta verified, and the 2nd version, which had a nearly impossible duel miniwave part at the end. If the duel part was included, it MIGHT have been harder, because that part is nearly impossible AND it's near the end, but as it stands BB is harder. And if you still aren't convinced, Trusta said in his "meet" video that bb was his hardest demon, and the meet episode was recorded after Trusta beet sakupen hell. So, ya.
And to answer the 2nd question, sonic wave is probably twice as hard as either of the levels. It's wave parts are harder then sakupen hell's, and the level is 2 minutes.
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Sakupen hell is harder but shorter. And imo Trusta's attempts don't really tell much, Sakupen hell seems like one of those levels where you die half a second later you spawn with start pos all the time, adding a bunch of attempts xd
