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Post by XilaskaR on Jul 15, 2016 15:36:39 GMT -5
Im so tired of these people. I wanna tell a few things so lets divide this by points. 1- RobTop is only one person.NO ONE is helping him, and he is working with an engine that generates 3 bugs per codeline (which also has these amazing GD physics engine) you people don't understand how much a game costs to work with. The few times I have tried it I couldn't even finish the first level before 2 weeks passed. And I tried it with help of 3 persons. RobTop is only one. "but its just a simple update!! " simple? Have you guys even noticed how much content this update actually has? Its bigger than 2.0. If other teams like for example the Redigit team of terraria had to make an update with that content, they would take more than 2 years, and those are 9 people ffs. (From Terraria 1.1.1 to Terraria 1.2 there was 2.6 years, no patches beetween and in 2.4 years the team didnt post ANY info whatsoever.) People are understimating how much work RobTop actually has to do, and in how much time he has done it. And most of them havent touched any programation in their lives like Bycraft (he has done aproximately 7 videos critizicing RobTop for the time spent with 2.1) So please, stop. 2- RobTop is NOT your slaveAnd he wont do what you want, where you want, and how you want it, everytime you want. He is living under so much pressure (which is actually slowing him down) spams, insults, and even death threats (do you think someone deserves death threats because he is taking "too much time" with an update for a 4 dollar game?) You wont get brain cancer for an update taking longer than normal. Calm down. RobTop is doing ALL he can do to get this update out. And you making 7 minute videos insulting robtop for taking too long with an update (like Bycraft) only will slow the process down. Death threaths to a person, because he didnt update his game in the date he had promised. Do you really think its the right way to react? When a game/update is delayed. ITS FOR A REASON. ITS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE GAME WILL BE MORE POLISHED WHEN IT GETS OUT. 3- Follow your lives please.Yes ok, an update is delayed, yes I mean its frustrating, etc. BUT YOU CONTINUE YOUR LIFE. You really think critizicing and insulting Rob till the update gets out will make it get out quicker? Its not like life has stopped and it will only continue when 2.1 releases. Theres a lot more things to do with 2.0 right now (or you can just grab another game) so please stop. This is not going anywhere. TL;DR: Stop crying about 2.1 and go make something productive with your lives rather than insulting the developer. TL;DR2: You have plenty of time. Read it all.
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Post by gbc on Jul 15, 2016 15:40:56 GMT -5
Best thing to do about 2.1: -Stop caring about it and act like it would never come out
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Post by benjamaster7 on Jul 15, 2016 15:43:28 GMT -5
I couldnβt care less about how long itβs taking. I care about the update itself. RobTop keeps feeling the urge to add SO many new features when thereβs absolutely no reason. And it may even be his fault that he wants to work alone on the game. So heβs by himself and heβs making a huge deal out of each update. What these huge updates means is that you have to make really big adjustments to get good with the update, and levels that werenβt rated before may never be rated because theyβre outdated. Worse, RobTop adding all of these things is a HUGE amount of work for one person, which decreases his interaction with the community.
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Post by WillFlame on Jul 15, 2016 17:26:35 GMT -5
1. Why is no one helping him? 2. Updates before 2.0 were much faster than this, so why is 2.1 taking so much longer? 3. Why is RobTop adding so many features to 2.1, a "small" update? 4. 2.0 took forever to come out (so it should've been more polished), but why did it still have so many bugs?
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Post by Ezel on Jul 15, 2016 17:47:33 GMT -5
Yes, you're right, but people are complaining mostly for one thing: RobTop said he was going to do some bug fixing, but he still keeps adding more and more content. People are getting impatient, because it takes much longer than expected.
Also you referred to Terraria: yes, one of their updates took two years to make, but later updates started to appear much faster. Now when they're going to be bigger, developers split some features between them (like 1.3.2 is going to have a new event, but 1.3.3 is going to have a desert overhaul). I think RobTop could make same thing: add a part of the features and save others for the new version. Updates would appear faster.
I don't complain about Rob's work right now. I know it takes a lot of time and he has his own life too, also he's making stuff alone. He has very little time to everything. It's just my opinion and my suggestion is that RobTop could split the update into two... because why not? People would be satisfied and there would be more updates. A good compromise.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 18:00:57 GMT -5
1. Why is no one helping him? 2. Updates before 2.0 were much faster than this, so why is 2.1 taking so much longer? 3. Why is RobTop adding so many features to 2.1, a "small" update? 4. 2.0 took forever to come out (so it should've been more polished), but why did it still have so many bugs? 1. That's him, why are you asking that here? 2. That's exactly what this thread explains facepalm 3. Robtop never confirmed it was a small update, he just said he would try to get smaller and faster updates after 2.0 4. pressure and so many people quitting because 2.0 didn't come out. 2.01 came shortly after, meaning he could've delayed the update like 2 weeks to fix all bugs. tl;dr facepalm.
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Post by emdixon095 on Jul 15, 2016 19:15:19 GMT -5
All RobTop wants to do is cook a simple chicken for dinner, and everyone says, "omg omg RobTop threw his laptop into the oven let's eat it up omg!"
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Post by XilaskaR on Jul 16, 2016 5:24:58 GMT -5
Also you referred to Terraria: yes, one of their updates took two years to make, but later updates started to appear much faster. Now when they're going to be bigger, developers split some features between them (like 1.3.2 is going to have a new event, but 1.3.3 is going to have a desert overhaul). I think RobTop could make same thing: add a part of the features and save others for the new version. Updates would appear faster. That doesnt matter, im using the example of an update of the game, not of the game itself. Because 1.2 took 2.6 years to come. However NO ONE was never either pissed off of it. Why? because Terraria community is 10 times better than ours and actually understands the pressure and work the devs have to go through and dont think they are their slaves like we do. Yes its better a small update per 3 months rather than a big one in 1 year, but as I said. You wont get pingas cancer for an update to come longer. Just wait for it, nothing will happen, its not like the world stops.
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Post by Mechanguis on Jul 16, 2016 5:37:24 GMT -5
Most of the reason why people are getting salty about 2.1 is mainly because he keeps adding newer and newer content when he says he's already done doing so and, in the past, he has set many tentative release dates for the updates which were all missed. It's the idea of setting false expectations that irritates people, although I agree that this doesn't make it ok for them to constantly complain and get overly angry about it.
btw why is this in Debate
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Post by Ezel on Jul 16, 2016 5:59:29 GMT -5
Also you referred to Terraria: yes, one of their updates took two years to make, but later updates started to appear much faster. Now when they're going to be bigger, developers split some features between them (like 1.3.2 is going to have a new event, but 1.3.3 is going to have a desert overhaul). I think RobTop could make same thing: add a part of the features and save others for the new version. Updates would appear faster. That doesnt matter, im using the example of an update of the game, not of the game itself. Because 1.2 took 2.6 years to come. However NO ONE was never either pissed off of it. Why? because Terraria community is 10 times better than ours and actually understands the pressure and work the devs have to go through and dont think they are their slaves like we do. Yes its better a small update per 3 months rather than a big one in 1 year, but as I said. You wont get pingas cancer for an update to come longer. Just wait for it, nothing will happen, its not like the world stops. Yeah, that's correct, their community is better, but it isn't amazing too. Terraria is also a bigger game, to be honest, but I agree, people were more patient with it.
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Post by VegetarianBacon on Jul 16, 2016 6:00:08 GMT -5
When somebody complains about 2.1, I'm like "Why not go get a fricking job and help RobTop? You seem like you want this update to come out."
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Post by WillFlame on Jul 16, 2016 6:27:20 GMT -5
1. Why is no one helping him? 2. Updates before 2.0 were much faster than this, so why is 2.1 taking so much longer? 3. Why is RobTop adding so many features to 2.1, a "small" update? 4. 2.0 took forever to come out (so it should've been more polished), but why did it still have so many bugs? 1. That's him, why are you asking that here? 2. That's exactly what this thread explains facepalm 3. Robtop never confirmed it was a small update, he just said he would try to get smaller and faster updates after 2.0 4. pressure and so many people quitting because 2.0 didn't come out. 2.01 came shortly after, meaning he could've delayed the update like 2 weeks to fix all bugs. tl;dr facepalm. 1. Because the OP used that as an argument to state that making a game is difficult. If RobTop had helpers, the entire argument would become invalid. If RobTop chooses to work by himself he's only putting more pressure onto himself, and that's a decision he makes for himself and the game. 2. That's not what I meant- this question was connected to #3. The fact that making a Terraria update with this many features (which doesn't really make sense as an analogy) is completely irrelevant. It's not that I (and probably others) don't understand work-to-time ratios, it's that I don't understand why this update has to have so much stuff in it which increases the work-to-time-ratio. 3. Well, he's obviously not trying. 4. Are you saying that if we pressure him and quit, he will release 2.1 (albeit with bugs)? Besides, isn't two months (or however long RobTop said he was bugfixing 2.0 for) enough time to find a game-breaking glitch like the user coin one? I don't think that time is effectively spent bugfixing, and since he's by himself, that makes it even less likely he'll find bugs. Anyways, I'm not complaining about 2.1 taking a long time, but I don't agree with the points stated in the OP. It basically sounded like a disguised hate thread for Bycraft, and I just wanted to point some things out.
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Post by Ezel on Jul 16, 2016 6:38:08 GMT -5
Well, finding glitches may be easy... but fixing not always. Maybe that takes so much time.
But yeah, if it's a "bugfixing" phase, it should focus mainly on bug fixing.
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Post by Samsk4ra on Jul 16, 2016 8:15:31 GMT -5
the people of the world is the reason i wanna be abducted by aliens smh community really is cancer
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 8:33:24 GMT -5
It's a shame barely anyone in this community has patience. I just play GD with what it offers, and try to forget about 2.1 until big news comes out.
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