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Post by chocothep1e on May 7, 2016 13:16:07 GMT -5
Why are mobile people required to play these 40k object levels in the first place?
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Post by TowerTV on May 7, 2016 13:18:27 GMT -5
Wow. Just wow. You have to be one of the most arrogant, antagonistic, narrow-minded, bigoted player I have met in this game. You're obnoxious about your opinion on PCs/Macs and mobile devices, you are harsh and rude, and you are so close-minded that you can't accept other ideas other than before. Let me fix what Ian failed to do: convey his argument. According to steamcharts.com, the amount of players who play the Steam version of the game at the moment is 3,991. Don't believe me? Here is the link: steamcharts.com/app/322170Guess how many people own the iOS app alone? According to ratings, since you can only rate an iOS app if you own a copy of the game, 226,817 people own the game. Again, this is on the iOS platform alone! On the Google Play Store, 432,015 people have gave the game a review, and it was overwhelmingly positive reviews (that doesn't necessarily mean ALL the reviewers own the game, as you don't need to buy it to review it, but that's a lot of people who love the game, so...). On the Amazon App Store, 9,469 people gave the game a 5-star rating, so that must mean they have played the game themselves. In total, 668,301 own the game on mobile devices. How do you explain that? Next time, you should do your research, instead of being an idiot PC fanboy and spewing total bullshít to the rest of the community and acting like you know what you're talking about. YOU are the cancer. You are one of the reasons I dislike the community. Argumentum ad lapidem and faulty comparison. This is a form of silencing. Here you go. That's almost like saying we should just leave Earth and live on another planet because we've destroyed the environment nearly beyond repair. No one said that. You're just pulling things out of your *** now. First of all, thank you for the stats. They are very helpful. Also, your counterpoint saying, "That's almost like saying we should just leave Earth and live on another planet because we've destroyed the environment nearly beyond repair," is working in my favor. Thankfully, we haven't come to that point yet, but if we find an inhabitable planet with an untouched or nearly untouched environment then why shouldn't we? So thank you. Also, I said that it shouldn't necessarily stay a mobile game; but that's my opinion. Also, your last "argument," "You're just pulling things out of your *** now," is ad hominem, it isn't arguing against my opinion. Also also, I never said any of these things were facts; they are merely my opinion and just because I have an opinion doesn't make me narrow-minded, bigoted, or arrogant. In fact, saying that I am narrow-minded, bigoted, and arrogant because my opinion is different than yours is the definition of being bigoted and arrogant. And how is saying that PCs/Macs will always be superior devices faulty comparison? They have more potential and more capacity to run games than mobile devices do. Who wouldn't want to get GD on their computer if they have Steam? It would run better (unless you have an iPhone 6S and a Windows Vista laptop). EDIT "Next time, you should do your research, instead of being an idiot PC fanboy and spewing total bullshít to the rest of the community and acting like you know what you're talking about. YOU are the cancer. You are one of the reasons I dislike the community." I said that I would like to see some stats, so obviously I did not do research for this. And I am hardly being "an idiot PC fanboy" or "spewing total bullsh**," I'm merely pointing out that computers in general (not just PCs) have way more capacity (as inb4) to run games and other things than phones do. This does not mean, however, that I think GD should be taken off of all mobile app stores. And by cancer, I meant people who whine and cry and crab about not getting features because their levels stink or because they disagree with others' opinions, etc. In my comments before, I wasn't being rude, I was just saying that Ian's arguments won't change my mind about the object limit. However, you are being rude "...arrogant, antagonistic, narrow-minded, bigoted...." Unfortunately for you, I am not the cancer I was talking about, you are and you have proved my point. Also, chocothep1e I want to know what you think of this. Also, we don't need to even have this argument, because RobTop said that levels with over 40k objects have a much less chance of getting featured. And by this, I mean this guy.
Let me clarify a few things. First off, there was a misunderstanding, and I think you should have been clearer and less harsh. What sparked my anger was your attitude. It said to me "Computers are superior! Abandon the mobile players! You're an idiot!" So I lashed out and name-called when I shouldn't have. I take back arrogance, but I called you a PC fanboy because you said that computers are the absolute best and are above everything (sounded like it), I called you rude and harsh because of your bad attitude. Actually, that WAS arrogant. And that's why I called you a bigot, because you acted like your opinion was automatically the right one, and that Ian was foolish for even trying to argue against it. And when I said you were pulling stuff out of your áss, I meant you were making it up. That isn't ad hominem. What source did you get the idea that the mobile device part of the community were all a bunch of annoying, cancerous, crybaby five-year-olds? Sounds like generalization to me. And just because it's an opinion, doesn't mean I can't be touched at all. I found your opinion to be invalid, so I criticized it, and there is nothing wrong with that. And I take back the bit of hatred I showed to you because you accepted my criticism just fine, and I can respect that. Also, chocopic has been offline for 8 months. There doesn't need to be a big fight. I apologize for being rude to you if I was. And by the way, about Earth, you would abandon all the plants and animals behind without any help just to satisfy your need for self-preservation?
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Post by chocothep1e on May 7, 2016 13:20:40 GMT -5
Also, chocopic has been offline for 8 months. I have been active for about 8 months, I made my profile private so people can't see.
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Post by Igno on May 7, 2016 13:23:05 GMT -5
First of all, thank you for the stats. They are very helpful. Also, your counterpoint saying, "That's almost like saying we should just leave Earth and live on another planet because we've destroyed the environment nearly beyond repair," is working in my favor. Thankfully, we haven't come to that point yet, but if we find an inhabitable planet with an untouched or nearly untouched environment then why shouldn't we? So thank you. Also, I said that it shouldn't necessarily stay a mobile game; but that's my opinion. Also, your last "argument," "You're just pulling things out of your *** now," is ad hominem, it isn't arguing against my opinion. Also also, I never said any of these things were facts; they are merely my opinion and just because I have an opinion doesn't make me narrow-minded, bigoted, or arrogant. In fact, saying that I am narrow-minded, bigoted, and arrogant because my opinion is different than yours is the definition of being bigoted and arrogant. And how is saying that PCs/Macs will always be superior devices faulty comparison? They have more potential and more capacity to run games than mobile devices do. Who wouldn't want to get GD on their computer if they have Steam? It would run better (unless you have an iPhone 6S and a Windows Vista laptop). EDIT "Next time, you should do your research, instead of being an idiot PC fanboy and spewing total bullshít to the rest of the community and acting like you know what you're talking about. YOU are the cancer. You are one of the reasons I dislike the community." I said that I would like to see some stats, so obviously I did not do research for this. And I am hardly being "an idiot PC fanboy" or "spewing total bullsh**," I'm merely pointing out that computers in general (not just PCs) have way more capacity (as inb4) to run games and other things than phones do. This does not mean, however, that I think GD should be taken off of all mobile app stores. And by cancer, I meant people who whine and cry and crab about not getting features because their levels stink or because they disagree with others' opinions, etc. In my comments before, I wasn't being rude, I was just saying that Ian's arguments won't change my mind about the object limit. However, you are being rude "...arrogant, antagonistic, narrow-minded, bigoted...." Unfortunately for you, I am not the cancer I was talking about, you are and you have proved my point. Also, chocothep1e I want to know what you think of this. Also, we don't need to even have this argument, because RobTop said that levels with over 40k objects have a much less chance of getting featured. And by this, I mean this guy.
Let me clarify a few thiggs. First off, there was a misunderstanding, and I think you should have been clearer and less harsh. What sparked my anger was your attitude. It said to me "Computers are superior! Abandon the mobile players! You're an idiot!" So I lashed out and name-called when I shouldn't have. I take back arrogance, but I called you a PC fanboy because you said that computers are the absolute best and are above everything (sounded like it), I called you rude and harsh because of your bad attitude. Actually, that WAS arrogant. And that's why I called you a bigot, because you acted like your opinion was automatically the right one, and that Ian was foolish for even trying to argue against it. And when I said you were pulling stuff out of your áss, I meant you were making it up. That isn't ad hominem. What source did you get the idea that the mobile device part of the community were a bunch of annoying, cancerous, crybaby five-year-olds? And just because it's an opinion, doesn't mean I can't be touched at all. I found your opinion to be invalid, so I criticized it, and there is nothing wrong with that. And I take back the bit of hatred I showed to you because you accepted my criticism just fine, and I can respect that. Also, chocopic has been offline for 8 months. There doesn't need to be a big fight. I apologize for being rude to you if I was. And by the way, about Earth, you would abandon all the plants and animals behind without any help just to satisfy your need for self-preservation? Thank you for your apology. And to a certain extent, computers are superior to phones, but not 100% of the time. And no, chocothep1e has been online a lot the past few months. And to answer your question about the leaving earth thing... I wouldn't just ditch them, but I would also want to survive so I would move. But I'd still try to help them. EDIT I do not mean "ditch all mobile players cuz they suk" I'm just saying that maybe the unlimited obj thing will get people who really care migrate to steam and people who dont really care leave. But I don't mean that all mobile players are horrible or cancerous.
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Post by LuMaIchArgI on May 8, 2016 1:19:40 GMT -5
Let me clarify a few thiggs. First off, there was a misunderstanding, and I think you should have been clearer and less harsh. What sparked my anger was your attitude. It said to me "Computers are superior! Abandon the mobile players! You're an idiot!" So I lashed out and name-called when I shouldn't have. I take back arrogance, but I called you a PC fanboy because you said that computers are the absolute best and are above everything (sounded like it), I called you rude and harsh because of your bad attitude. Actually, that WAS arrogant. And that's why I called you a bigot, because you acted like your opinion was automatically the right one, and that Ian was foolish for even trying to argue against it. And when I said you were pulling stuff out of your áss, I meant you were making it up. That isn't ad hominem. What source did you get the idea that the mobile device part of the community were a bunch of annoying, cancerous, crybaby five-year-olds? And just because it's an opinion, doesn't mean I can't be touched at all. I found your opinion to be invalid, so I criticized it, and there is nothing wrong with that. And I take back the bit of hatred I showed to you because you accepted my criticism just fine, and I can respect that. Also, chocopic has been offline for 8 months. There doesn't need to be a big fight. I apologize for being rude to you if I was. And by the way, about Earth, you would abandon all the plants and animals behind without any help just to satisfy your need for self-preservation? Thank you for your apology. And to a certain extent, computers are superior to phones, but not 100% of the time. And no, chocothep1e has been online a lot the past few months. And to answer your question about the leaving earth thing... I wouldn't just ditch them, but I would also want to survive so I would move. But I'd still try to help them. EDIT I do not mean "ditch all mobile players cuz they suk" I'm just saying that maybe the unlimited obj thing will get people who really care migrate to steam and people who dont really care leave. But I don't mean that all mobile players are horrible or cancerous. No one is going to play $5 to and possibly 100s more for a computer just so they can play a game they already have on a different platform, that's what you don't understand. Also what's next? The game will be so laggy and unplayable "people who care" will have to switch to 144Hz monitors or more?
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Post by Igno on May 8, 2016 14:25:06 GMT -5
Thank you for your apology. And to a certain extent, computers are superior to phones, but not 100% of the time. And no, chocothep1e has been online a lot the past few months. And to answer your question about the leaving earth thing... I wouldn't just ditch them, but I would also want to survive so I would move. But I'd still try to help them. EDIT I do not mean "ditch all mobile players cuz they suk" I'm just saying that maybe the unlimited obj thing will get people who really care migrate to steam and people who dont really care leave. But I don't mean that all mobile players are horrible or cancerous. No one is going to play $5 to and possibly 100s more for a computer just so they can play a game they already have on a different platform, that's what you don't understand. Also what's next? The game will be so laggy and unplayable "people who care" will have to switch to 144Hz monitors or more? 1) Most people have computers, 2) Steam is free and $4 is not very much at all; especially for a Steam game, 3) I have a 60 hertz monitor on a laptop and GD runs perfectly
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Post by LuMaIchArgI on May 8, 2016 14:29:13 GMT -5
No one is going to play $5 to and possibly 100s more for a computer just so they can play a game they already have on a different platform, that's what you don't understand. Also what's next? The game will be so laggy and unplayable "people who care" will have to switch to 144Hz monitors or more? 1) Most people have computers, 2) Steam is free and $4 is not very much at all; especially for a Steam game, 3) I have a 60 hertz monitor on a laptop and GD runs perfectly 1.) Alot of people probably have crappy computers 2.) $5 is a probably not the kind of money a parent is willing to spend on a game you already have (assuming they will spend 5 dollars on a game in general 3.) See #1
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Post by Igno on May 8, 2016 15:14:21 GMT -5
1) Most people have computers, 2) Steam is free and $4 is not very much at all; especially for a Steam game, 3) I have a 60 hertz monitor on a laptop and GD runs perfectly 1.) Alot of people probably have crappy computers 2.) $5 is a probably not the kind of money a parent is willing to spend on a game you already have (assuming they will spend 5 dollars on a game in general 3.) See #1 1) probably does not prove anything, and if you're smart, you don't buy crappy computers in the first place, 2) earn your own money, kid, 3) see #1 EDIT by the way, GD is $4 on Steam, not $5. EDIT 2 and also, RobTop has already solved the problem of levels with too many objects: less chance of getting featured, so none of this really matters anyway. And also also, why are mobile users required to play 40k+ obj levels in the first place?
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Post by LuMaIchArgI on May 8, 2016 15:27:31 GMT -5
1.) Alot of people probably have crappy computers 2.) $5 is a probably not the kind of money a parent is willing to spend on a game you already have (assuming they will spend 5 dollars on a game in general 3.) See #1 1) probably does not prove anything, and if you're smart, you don't buy crappy computers in the first place, 2) earn your own money, kid, 3) see #1 EDIT by the way, GD is $4 on Steam, not $5. EDIT 2 and also, RobTop has already solved the problem of levels with too many objects: less chance of getting featured, so none of this really matters anyway. And also also, why are mobile users required to play 40k+ obj levels in the first place? 1.) My computer is crappy but I'm pretty sure I didn't buy it when it was 5 years old,(what I'm saying is old computers and alot of families won't waste money on getting a new computer if one still works even if it is as crappy as mine) We're not, we don't know if a level has 40k objects tho so if we want to beat a level and we play it but the game crashes cuz we didn't realize it had that many objects that's a problem
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Post by GDBomb on May 8, 2016 15:28:04 GMT -5
No one is going to play $5 to and possibly 100s more for a computer just so they can play a game they already have on a different platform, that's what you don't understand. Also what's next? The game will be so laggy and unplayable "people who care" will have to switch to 144Hz monitors or more? 1) Most people have computers, 2) Steam is free and $4 is not very much at all; especially for a Steam game, 3) I have a 60 hertz monitor on a laptop and GD runs perfectly inb4 parents dont let me get steam ;-; inb4 parents dont give me allowance inb4 parents refuse to give me anything after i do chores inb4 absolutely no way to earn money in city ;-;
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Post by LuMaIchArgI on May 8, 2016 16:07:10 GMT -5
1) Most people have computers, 2) Steam is free and $4 is not very much at all; especially for a Steam game, 3) I have a 60 hertz monitor on a laptop and GD runs perfectly inb4 parents dont let me get steam ;-; inb4 parents dont give me allowance inb4 parents refuse to give u anything after u do chores inb4 absolutely no way to earn money in city You actually earn money from chores? xd (I have never made money from doing chores nor do I get allowance, I think it's useless)
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Post by GDBomb on May 8, 2016 16:28:27 GMT -5
i wish i just forgot to edit ;-;
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Post by Mechanguis on May 9, 2016 2:12:33 GMT -5
And also also, why are mobile users required to play 40k+ obj levels in the first place? Because, sooner or later, that's pretty much going to be what most of the featured levels will be like. I mean, most of the featured levels right now have at least 20k objects, with a lot of the effect levels reaching 25k+. It's not unimaginable to think that a lot of the 2.1 featured levels will have at least 30k and even 35k, especially with all the new decoration which looks like it'll eat up a huge chunk of the object limit.
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Post by ✩Speed The Weeb✩ on May 9, 2016 3:53:22 GMT -5
As long as there actually is an Object limit, I'm happy...
Also to Igno Arguement... My Phone runs GD better than my PC, just saying
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Post by Navianya on May 9, 2016 18:47:38 GMT -5
If rob is going to add a higher object limit, it should work like this:
You can use more objects the longer the level is, so if it's 3 minutes you can use say 45k objects, that way it balances out more, so you don't have a lot of objects clustered into one compact part of the level.
That's my opinion
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