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Post by S3rios on Feb 20, 2019 13:01:26 GMT -5
Ziel and I came to a partial agreement off of the forums.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:51:24 GMT -5
Throughout my entire life I haven't really been able to formulate any opinions on this subject because I never really had any interaction from people of that community. Recently however that's changed a little bit, I've had a lesbian high school teacher who was frankly awesome who got married midyear, a gay classmate, and another non-binary classmate.
All of these people were essentially the same as everyone else. These things were just part of their identities, and it didn't make them any better or worse than anyone else. If I'm honest though these attributes sort of are the defining thing about them. I sort of just affiliate and go "oh yeah he's gay" or whatever else, but that isn't something out of hatred, it's simply because I never really had any interaction with people of the specified community and it's something that sticks out to me.
I'm not going to lie, there are some things that personally I feel a little iffy about. I'm not going to get into specifics, but some of these identities and stuff feel like they have very blurred lines and it's frankly hard to me to understand how they work and where the boundaries are drawn, and because of that I don't 100% agree with it. But that doesn't mean I have any hatred towards people who identify that way, it simply just doesn't make sense given the amount of knowledge I have currently obtained in my 18 years of life. That again can likely be attributed to my lack of interaction with people who identify like this. Maybe if I were to meet someone who identified that way, I would understand more, but as of now some things just don't connect the dots for me.
Speaking of which, I'm noticing that things get very...heated...when subjects like this are brought up, so I'm just going to leave my two cents. There are people that are for the LGBT+ community. There are people that are against the LGBT+ community, or are confused or don't necessarily agree with some parts of it. And I don't think they're in complete wrong to think that way. Maybe they're like me, who simply haven't gained enough knowledge. Or maybe they truly have hatred in their hearts against them. This is just how they think. Maybe they're fucking old. Maybe they grew up in a time or location that wasn't so accepting as the time we're in now. The sad truth is, it's very hard to undo life experience. If you take a little kid, and all around him people talked and said: "___ is bad. ___ is bad". They tell him: "___ is bad. ___ people are bad.", and for 20 years, 40 years, maybe even 60 years that's all they heard, and all they thought. It wasn't fueled by anything, it was simply a fact of life at the time. Then all of a sudden things in society change that contradict everything that they have heard in their entire lifetime. It's going to be pretty fucking hard to accept that everything you have known for your life is now considered wrong.
But the thing about life is that it ends. We're all going to die eventually. And with it, we'll take our thoughts with them. Maybe I'll never gain the knowledge to truly understand some parts of the LGBT+ community, and if so when I die I'll take those qualms with me. That's why I believe that rather than tearing at each others throats, people who have had their mentalities already set in stone with many years and decades of experience, it would be better to influence the new generation to make a change over time, and have them pass that knowledge down to their descendants, and so on. I understand forum members might technically under that category, but I'd say most of us are in high school/college and starting to become self sustaining. We're at the point in our lives where we're starting to understand ourselves and setting the basis of our ideals and beliefs in stone. And maybe those ideals were influenced by fucking old people from the point of conception in their mother's womb. Who knows?
Change isn't something that can be forced to be made in a few days. It's something we have to gradually work towards. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they're wrong, and maybe you're wrong. That's right, YOU person reading this. But we're all going to stand up for what we believe in, and I think as long as we don't kill each other it's fine.
So back to the topic at hand, I don't necessarily "support" the community, I rather just acknowledge them as people like I would as anyone else. I support them in the way I would support any other human being.
why am i writing so many essays today
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Post by incompl on Feb 20, 2019 18:18:13 GMT -5
I’m pretty indifferent to it. I don’t care much for the whole ‘community’ aspect and prefer to judge people on an individual basis. And people within the LGBTQ+ community are generally fine. They’re mostly decent people, which can be said for most people just as a general statement anyways. Yes there are extremists in the group, but that can be said for every single group out there. The ones that I primarily take issue with are those who play the victim card constantly and demonizing those who don’t fall within their community or consider themselves an ally. But again, those are few and far between.
Tl;dr don’t really care. Most of them are fine. Not a fan of the overly preachy ones though.
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Post by Hunna on Feb 24, 2019 1:08:46 GMT -5
#prayforparis
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Post by Swifter on Mar 4, 2019 22:52:13 GMT -5
What does the K mean?
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Post by XilaskaR on Mar 14, 2019 18:45:34 GMT -5
It really annoys me that people say "Oh yeah I'm totally fine with {} AS LONG AS {}"
I'm really fucking tired of the AS LONG AS.
Why do you care? Why do you stick your nose in other people's private life and try to have authority over it? Why do you have to not only filter out of your life but also take stabs at and belittle people you don't know and don't hurt you in any way? I guess maybe it could be that it creeps you out, but people with nail polish creep me out, does that mean it's fine for me to act all condescending and disgusted at them in front of their faces?
"But God said-" Listen. Not everyone in life believes the same things you do and you shouldn't act like it. This is regardless of how right you think those beliefs are, it doesn't matter. Your argument also makes no sense in the first place. If God loved me and created me from his image, either God is gay or God made me a "sinner" on purpose. Pick one.
"Facts don't care about your feelings" Well, if you don't care about my feelings, go away, I don't want you in my life. It's as simple as that.
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Post by horizon on Mar 14, 2019 19:12:07 GMT -5
Indifferent. LGBT+ people are really the same as anyone else. I'm not going to blink an eye at whatever you are as a person as long as you treat me like another human being.
As for the community itself, they can do them and I'll do me. I respect that the LGBT+ community is fighting for representation and more rights, but I'd rather not get involved in it.
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Post by RTef on Mar 14, 2019 19:26:58 GMT -5
There are issues in the LGBT+ community as there are issues in any community. Its like comparing gamers and athletes or Buddhists and Christians. There are differences and not everyone agrees with their opinions or cultural practices. As long as their community is not affecting me in a negative way, I'm fine with them. They're aren't hurting me so I won't hurt them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 19:45:17 GMT -5
"But God said-" Listen. Not everyone in life believes the same things you do and you shouldn't act like it. This is regardless of how right you think those beliefs are, it doesn't matter. Your argument also makes no sense in the first place. If God loved me and created me from his image, either God is gay or God made me a "sinner" on purpose. Pick one. The issue with this is that people then go to think, because that is not logical in that specific standpoint, that being gay is a choice and nobody is born that way. Unfortunately this way of thinking goes against reality.
Something I find interesting though, while some Christians think of being gay as a terrible thing, Jesus actually never says a thing on it. The only times in the New Testament that it's mentioned as being bad are in letters from different people, and even still those translations are highly debated.
Then you just got the old testament left to trust and don't get me started on how many laws are no longer in place in Christianity from the old testament lol.
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Post by XilaskaR on Mar 14, 2019 20:04:56 GMT -5
"But God said-" Listen. Not everyone in life believes the same things you do and you shouldn't act like it. This is regardless of how right you think those beliefs are, it doesn't matter. Your argument also makes no sense in the first place. If God loved me and created me from his image, either God is gay or God made me a "sinner" on purpose. Pick one. The issue with this is that people then go to think, because that is not logical in that specific standpoint, that being gay is a choice and nobody is born that way. Unfortunately this way of thinking goes against reality. Yeah. It just doesn’t make sense to me. They’ll say “god gave us free will” how can you call free will being able to do something that if you do you’ll be tortured for eternity and never accepted by society or by “god’s kingdom” or whatever? If god really “want’s us to be better” why would he make us bad in the first place? To “test our will” or something? If yes, why if the test fails he sends the person to burn for all eternity? Doesn’t he believe in redemption? If that god is “love”, why is so much hate involved in his story and what he tells his followers to do?
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Post by Guardian Wolf on Mar 18, 2019 0:06:06 GMT -5
It means "kink". That group of people very attracted to unconventional and extreme type of sex(kinky sex).
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Post by Swifter on Mar 18, 2019 7:04:32 GMT -5
It means "kink". That group of people very attracted to unconventional and extreme type of sex(kinky sex). thanks
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