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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 20:38:42 GMT -5
Huh? Even if he isn't "using it for profit," he's going to get fame no matter what. Plus, if he's hacking and not saying it, then he's lying. Any way you slice it he's doing something wrong. This is all assuming he's hacking, but no one is sure. so if I smell my toes and don't speak about it I'm lying? lmao I don't get how it's bad in any way, he's not harming anyone No, he's saying he is lying because he has been accused and is obviously denying it. If we were to use your example, say you smell your toes and then a minute later someone asked if you had smelled your toes today and you denied it. Then you would be lying |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 20:40:38 GMT -5
so if I smell my toes and don't speak about it I'm lying? lmao I don't get how it's bad in any way, he's not harming anyone No, he's saying he is lying because he has been accused and is obviously denying it. If we were to use your example, say you smell your toes and then a minute later someone asked if you had smelled your toes today and you denied it. Then you would be lying if he denied it would be lying ofc, but vortex said that if he hacks and doesn't say it it's lying (which doesn't make any sense) |
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Post by S3rios on Sept 20, 2016 20:44:37 GMT -5
Huh? Even if he isn't "using it for profit," he's going to get fame no matter what. Plus, if he's hacking and not saying it, then he's lying. Any way you slice it he's doing something wrong. This is all assuming he's hacking, but no one is sure. so if I smell my toes and don't speak about it I'm lying? lmao I don't get how it's bad in any way, he's not harming anyone By withholding the information that it's hacked (assuming it is), he's making his audience think he's a good player. Why is that ok? Male did the same thing. Andro did the same thing. Every hacker ever has done the same thing. Why is it suddenly ok as long as your "not doing it for fame." If your hacking and withholding the fact that your hacking and then posting said hacked records on YouTube, then what are you trying to get that isn't fame? Sure, he hasn't sent his fans after anyone (to my knowledge), which is good, but he's still lying and trying to get recognition and fame. And i don't see why sneaky gets some free pass that other hackers don't get. Edit: He's straight up denied that he's a hacker in multiple cases, but just to name one, he said he would prove he doesn't hack when he starts streaming. Also, I want to make it clear that I'm not saying he's hacking, but this is a hypothetical scenario in which he is a hacker, but I can't say one way or the other that he is one or not. |
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Post by Retired moderator. on Sept 20, 2016 20:48:48 GMT -5
Still looking for actual reason as to why he can even be debated to be a cheater
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Post by S3rios on Sept 20, 2016 20:51:56 GMT -5
Still looking for actual reason as to why he can even be debated to be a cheater I'm not sure one way or the other, but there was something about keyboard sounds that got this started. Apparently if you slow down sneaky's video the sound of the keys sounds like it should normally, but in the actual video it's at a higher pitch or something like that. There are a few threads on in general discussion that should be easy to find. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 21:30:47 GMT -5
I mean i think this is good enough proof.
If he is actually a hacker, then PLEASE JESUS CHRIST ROBTOP UNRATE DOWN BASS
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Post by NoctaFly on Sept 21, 2016 0:09:11 GMT -5
I asked Sneaky to accept my Discord Friend Request for end this thing,
He still havn't accepted it,
He's not legit tbh
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Post by Akro on Sept 21, 2016 12:12:28 GMT -5
I mean i think this is good enough proof. If he is actually a hacker, then PLEASE JESUS CHRIST ROBTOP UNRATE DOWN BASS Robtop rated Down Bass when everybody already knew that Spectra hacked it |
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Post by Donut_Panda on Sept 21, 2016 12:16:09 GMT -5
I mean i think this is good enough proof. If he is actually a hacker, then PLEASE JESUS CHRIST ROBTOP UNRATE DOWN BASS Robtop rated Down Bass when everybody already knew that Spectra hacked it Robtop rated it when Spectra hacked it Robtop didn't unrate it when the sw scandal happened Robtop probably won't unrate it if sneaky hacked it |
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Post by dwarftopia on Sept 21, 2016 13:40:33 GMT -5
I have on a moral dilemma right now:
-I trust Sneaky
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-I want Down Bass to get unrated because it's garbage and Crimson Clutter is bae
Imma go with "Sneaky is legit" because simple high pitched keyboard noises are not enough to accuse someone of hacking.
It would also be very bad in case he was hacking because we'd have to find another verifyer for Abaddon ;3;
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 14:32:10 GMT -5
*facepalm* the game doesn't recognize speedhack for the final time, it measures it like normal ._. also afaik the game does count pause time, and it case it doesn't... the first three jumps of rwr are at 30%, he probaly died a lot at the beggining which is logical, and in some attempts he reached very far. that video doesn't prove anything ffs, and this is coming from someone that isn't just a random joe trying to expose someone
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Post by S3rios on Sept 21, 2016 14:59:30 GMT -5
*facepalm* the game doesn't recognize speedhack for the final time, it measures it like normal ._. also afaik the game does count pause time, and it case it doesn't... the first three jumps of rwr are at 30%, he probaly died a lot at the beggining which is logical, and in some attempts he reached very far. that video doesn't prove anything ffs, and this is coming from someone that isn't just a random joe trying to expose someone Your wrong on many levels. First with the time thing. Yes, your right that the game DOES track pause time, but the timer doesn't adjust to speed hacks. For example, in andro's hacked cc video ( m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCkL4OOwIgQ ), he has 13 attempts in 16 minutes, which is almost impossible when playing normally, but is really easy to get with speed hacks. It's not definite proof necessarily, because he could have paused the game, but it's still suspicious. Secondly, you said that the first jumps aren't until 30%. For that, I'd like you to turn your attention to this video: everyplay.com/videos/34198365As you can see in the video, I did one "ball jump" and when I died it counted it towards my overall jump count. If "ball jumps" didn't count as jumps, I should have had 0 jumps when I died, but I had one instead. Its technically not impossible to recreate that ending time and jumps without speed hacks, but it's incredibly unlikely that all those circumstances would line up like that. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 15:35:17 GMT -5
*facepalm* the game doesn't recognize speedhack for the final time, it measures it like normal ._. also afaik the game does count pause time, and it case it doesn't... the first three jumps of rwr are at 30%, he probaly died a lot at the beggining which is logical, and in some attempts he reached very far. that video doesn't prove anything ffs, and this is coming from someone that isn't just a random joe trying to expose someone Your wrong on many levels. First with the time thing. Yes, your right that the game DOES track pause time, but the timer doesn't adjust to speed hacks. For example, in andro's hacked cc video ( m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCkL4OOwIgQ ), he has 13 attempts in 16 minutes, which is almost impossible when playing normally, but is really easy to get with speed hacks. It's not definite proof necessarily, because he could have paused the game, but it's still suspicious. Secondly, you said that the first jumps aren't until 30%. For that, I'd like you to turn your attention to this video: everyplay.com/videos/34198365As you can see in the video, I did one "ball jump" and when I died it counted it towards my overall jump count. If "ball jumps" didn't count as jumps, I should have had 0 jumps when I died, but I had one instead. Its technically not impossible to recreate that ending time and jumps without speed hacks, but it's incredibly unlikely that all those circumstances would line up like that. so 37 jumps in 80 something attempts, he most likely didn't pause the game for a while and went to do something, and when he returned he paused the game for more time. Happens to me often. oooooor he did a practice run and quit to normal mode from the pause menu before finishing the practice run (which I do often aswell), which may explain attempts, time, and low attempt count. Also, I just tested, if you use speedhack the counter at the end counts time like if you were playing the game at full speed, e.g. if you beat a 10 seconds level at 0.5 speed the final counter shows 10 seconds, not 20 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 15:44:56 GMT -5
*facepalm* the game doesn't recognize speedhack for the final time, it measures it like normal ._. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 15:47:28 GMT -5
*facepalm* the game doesn't recognize speedhack for the final time, it measures it like normal ._. um wat, I was talking about the video hexhammer put earlier, but I removed it cuz lag |
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