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Post by CrSb0001 on May 25, 2021 16:46:05 GMT -5
Which level stated in the poll is harder than all of the rest?
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Post by Bagley on May 25, 2021 20:14:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the point of this poll is, first of all we already have the pointercrate list, which, while imperfect, is a broad reflection of the community consensus on what the hardest levels in the game are. Moreover, the selection of levels for this poll is seemingly random, there's not a single player out there (who's qualified to give an opinion in the first place) that thinks Lunatic Doom Machine or ICDX are even remotely comparable to Firework, Tartarus, The Golden, etc.
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Post by CrSb0001 on May 26, 2021 12:35:05 GMT -5
What do people mean, there's no chance Zirokabi [jitter doll] will get any votes? IT IS SO HARD! I can only get 10% in normal mode! I have 15% on Bloodbath! [normal mode, currently 166th place on Pointercrate]
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Post by somethingishere1o1 on May 26, 2021 12:47:38 GMT -5
What do people mean, there's no chance Zirokabi [jitter doll] will get any votes? IT IS SO HARD! I can only get 10% in normal mode! I have 15% on Bloodbath! [normal mode, currently 166th place on Pointercrate] zirokabi is so easy and free and so easy and very easy and freer than free freer than the citizens of america freer than starbucks wifi freer than water
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Post by CrSb0001 on May 26, 2021 12:50:58 GMT -5
What do people mean, there's no chance Zirokabi [jitter doll] will get any votes? IT IS SO HARD! I can only get 10% in normal mode! I have 15% on Bloodbath! [normal mode, currently 166th place on Pointercrate] zirokabi is so easy and free and so easy and very easy and freer than free freer than the citizens of america freer than starbucks wifi freer than water you mean the orb part in Zirokabi [jitter doll]
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Post by somethingishere1o1 on May 26, 2021 13:09:54 GMT -5
zirokabi is so easy and free and so easy and very easy and freer than free freer than the citizens of america freer than starbucks wifi freer than water you mean the orb part in Zirokabi [jitter doll] zirokabi is easier than firework
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Post by CrSb0001 on May 26, 2021 13:18:33 GMT -5
you mean the orb part in Zirokabi [jitter doll] zirokabi is easier than firework Only if you're good at memorization.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 13:23:02 GMT -5
Bagley touched on this a little in his response, but the selection of levels in this poll makes absolutely no sense. Lunatic Doom Machine and Zirokabi aren’t even extreme demons (unless you mean Ziroikabi rather than Zirokabi, but that’s an extended list demon and still nowhere near as hard as some of the other levels on here), and ICE Carbon Diablo X is arguably not extreme demon worthy either (and even if it is, it’s still one of the easiest extreme demons). Removed Submission is definitely an extreme demon, but it might not even be list worthy (the list team is still debating whether or not to add it). Ziroikapi (not spelled Zirokapi) is high extended list, and (again) not nearly as hard as some of the other stuff here. For Zodiac, Tartarus, The Golden, Cold Sweat, and Fragile, the consensus seems to be that the list order (Tartarus > The Golden > Zodiac > Fragile > Cold Sweat) is mostly correct, with the only change that could potentially be made is that The Golden could switch with Zodiac. Firework is almost certainly harder than all of these, but we won’t know for sure until it’s verified.
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Post by somethingishere1o1 on May 26, 2021 13:23:22 GMT -5
zirokabi is easier than firework Only if you're good at memorization. ...? how are you not good at memorization
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Post by CrSb0001 on May 26, 2021 13:27:40 GMT -5
Only if you're good at memorization. ...? how are you not good at memorization Believe me, I am. It's just the stupid hard timing that I'm annoyed by. Which you have to memorize.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 15:37:00 GMT -5
What do people mean, there's no chance Zirokabi [jitter doll] will get any votes? IT IS SO HARD! I can only get 10% in normal mode! I have 15% on Bloodbath! [normal mode, currently 166th place on Pointercrate] Sorry, but this reasoning is kind of awful. If I said that Forsaken Neon was harder than Night Terrors because I have 51% on Forsaken Neon and 65% on Night Terrors, everyone would laugh at me and call me an idiot (rightly so, I would add). It's a completely nonsensical argument, and it gets even worse the lower the percent you have on the levels you're comparing. If this is your best argument, there's no reason for anyone to take your opinion seriously.
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Post by Bagley on May 26, 2021 16:00:16 GMT -5
What do people mean, there's no chance Zirokabi [jitter doll] will get any votes? IT IS SO HARD! I can only get 10% in normal mode! I have 15% on Bloodbath! [normal mode, currently 166th place on Pointercrate] Sorry, but this reasoning is kind of awful. If I said that Forsaken Neon was harder than Night Terrors because I have 51% on Forsaken Neon and 65% on Night Terrors, everyone would laugh at me and call me an idiot (rightly so, I would add). It's a completely nonsensical argument, and it gets even worse the lower the percent you have on the levels you're comparing. If this is your best argument, there's no reason for anyone to take your opinion seriously. Fezzie is completely correct, let's say for the sake of the argument that a player with a completely balanced skillset spent the same number of attempts on both levels, and at the exact same skill level, and got 10% on Zirokabi and 15% on Bloodbath. That doesn't prove that Zirokabi is harder than Bloodbath, it just proves that the first 10% of Zirokabi is about the same difficulty as the first 15% of Bloodbath. You're not accounting for how the difficulty is distributed throughout each level. To use an extreme example, any decently good player whose hardest demon is an easy demon could probably get past RicoLP and Rustam's parts in Zodiac (the #3 demon), and get 7% on it, without too much trouble. However, they might not be able to get 7% on Acropolis (low insane demon), since the first cube would be quite hard to learn. That doesn't mean Acropolis is harder than Zodiac, in fact they're not even close.
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Post by CrSb0001 on May 26, 2021 16:20:12 GMT -5
Sorry, but this reasoning is kind of awful. If I said that Forsaken Neon was harder than Night Terrors because I have 51% on Forsaken Neon and 65% on Night Terrors, everyone would laugh at me and call me an idiot (rightly so, I would add). It's a completely nonsensical argument, and it gets even worse the lower the percent you have on the levels you're comparing. If this is your best argument, there's no reason for anyone to take your opinion seriously. Fezzie is completely correct, let's say for the sake of the argument that a player with a completely balanced skillset spent the same number of attempts on both levels, and at the exact same skill level, and got 10% on Zirokabi and 15% on Bloodbath. That doesn't prove that Zirokabi is harder than Bloodbath, it just proves that the first 10% of Zirokabi is about the same difficulty as the first 15% of Bloodbath. You're not accounting for how the difficulty is distributed throughout each level. To use an extreme example, any decently good player whose hardest demon is an easy demon could probably get past RicoLP and Rustam's parts in Zodiac (the #3 demon), and get 7% on it, without too much trouble. However, they might not be able to get 7% on Acropolis (low insane demon), since the first cube would be quite hard to learn. That doesn't mean Acropolis is harder than Zodiac, in fact they're not even close. Okay, okay, I understand now, since I do have around the same % in normal mode for Math and Aftermath (6% on Math and 3-6% on Aftermath, with Aftermath currently being #197 on the demon list, and Math being near-low-end extreme demon very high-end insane demon), and I think I have around 3% on Zodiac, and 1% on both Tartarus and The Golden, so it now makes sense what you're saying, ig.
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Post by Dragon on May 26, 2021 16:55:20 GMT -5
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Post by Царь on May 26, 2021 21:47:02 GMT -5
Lol u dumb nerds not even mentioning the wall. If you don't know, its a level by cyrillic (sea1997 guy) that is so hard you cannot even beat it. You just cant.
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