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Discord: davidka#7774
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Favorite Level: Lunatic Doom Machine
Hardest Demon: Demon Park
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Post by davisantus on Jul 31, 2020 7:02:08 GMT -5
I was wondering these days about Zobros' levels and decided to ask this question, what is, for real, Zobros' easisest demon.
taking in consideration that most of his levels are either hard or insane demons, i guess the insane demons can be automatically removed from the question (altough if you think different, go ahead), being these levels: 8o, Acropolis, Clubstep Nightmares, Love Baba and Luminum.
i left Ultimate Demon Mix out of the list since it's a level mix of parts with various difficulties, and they never get that hard to be on par with his other insanes.
So, if UDM is out of this (i'm gonna consider it harder than NC and Forsaken Neon)
the only levels that's up now is Nine Circles and Forsaken Neon?
so, what of the two you think it's easier?
I personally think that, due to the sheer consistency of the gameplay, Nine Circles Might be easier.
NC Gameplay is pretty straightfoward, even with the design being somewhat "weird", the gameplay is pretty simple, Easy cube then ship then ball then wave (yeah, it's pretty tight for the standarts but god, it's one of the most famous waves on the game), and an tricky memory ending.
In Comaparsion, Forsaken Neon, even with easier parts overall, is pretty buggy and has more varied gameplay, with some of it being pretty confusing.
so i guess nine circles might be easier, but i want to know YOUR opinion to make the Debate richer.
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Post by dtc on Jul 31, 2020 7:35:24 GMT -5
Nine circles would be the easier one but only because FN is so goddamn buggy and inconsistent
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 3:50:31 GMT -5
I beat Nine Circles and Forsaken Neon within a week apart. Nine Circles took me 2500 attempts. Forsaken neon took me A LOT more. Forsaken Neon is a lot harder IMO. Nine Circles is pretty consistent while Forsaken Neon is extremely buggy and inconsistent like the 17% ship, the wave spam, the cube, and the ball
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 3:54:06 GMT -5
I beat Nine Circles and Forsaken Neon within a week apart. Nine Circles took me 2500 attempts. Forsaken neon took me A LOT more. Forsaken Neon is a lot harder IMO. Nine Circles is pretty consistent while Forsaken Neon is extremely buggy and inconsistent like the 17% ship, the wave spam, the cube, and the ball
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46 posts
Discord: davidka#7774
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Favorite Level: Lunatic Doom Machine
Hardest Demon: Demon Park
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Post by davisantus on Aug 5, 2020 8:46:40 GMT -5
I beat Nine Circles and Forsaken Neon within a week apart. Nine Circles took me 2500 attempts. Forsaken neon took me A LOT more. Forsaken Neon is a lot harder IMO. Nine Circles is pretty consistent while Forsaken Neon is extremely buggy and inconsistent like the 17% ship, the wave spam, the cube, and the ball I beat Nine Circles and Forsaken Neon within a week apart. Nine Circles took me 2500 attempts. Forsaken neon took me A LOT more. Forsaken Neon is a lot harder IMO. Nine Circles is pretty consistent while Forsaken Neon is extremely buggy and inconsistent like the 17% ship, the wave spam, the cube, and the ball oh, thanks for the reply, you served an awesome reference in that thing, due to the low hability gap between your two completions, i'm really grateful since your reply was the exact one i was waiting.
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Favorite Level: Dream Flower by Xender & Knots
Hardest Demon: Zafari by Rustam
Mini-Profile Name Color: orange
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Post by 3cstasy7410 on Oct 6, 2020 15:01:10 GMT -5
I'd say Nine Circles is way easier than Forsaken Neon, because in NC, everything before the wave is pretty easy whereas Forsaken Neon just starts off hard and gets harder. Plus, it's really buggy, and that last ship is cancer.
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Post by Bagley on Oct 7, 2020 2:21:40 GMT -5
I'd say Nine Circles is way easier than Forsaken Neon, because in NC, everything before the wave is pretty easy whereas Forsaken Neon just starts off hard and gets harder. Plus, it's really buggy, and that last ship is cancer. In this thread: gdforum.freeforums.net/thread/64256/ti-demon-which-harderyou say that Problematic is easier than Dear Nostalgists because Problematic gets easier as you go further in the level, unlike Dear Nostalgists. However, in this thread, you say that Nine Circles is easier than Forsaken Neon because Nine Circles gets harder as you go further in the level. So which is it? Your logic is inconsistent. (For the record, I happen to agree with you on both counts, just not for the same reasoning that you've given.)
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312 posts
Favorite Level: Traffic Trauma
Hardest Demon: Infrared
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Post by Cabbage on Oct 8, 2020 13:33:30 GMT -5
I'd say Nine Circles is way easier than Forsaken Neon, because in NC, everything before the wave is pretty easy whereas Forsaken Neon just starts off hard and gets harder. Plus, it's really buggy, and that last ship is cancer. In this thread: gdforum.freeforums.net/thread/64256/ti-demon-which-harderyou say that Problematic is easier than Dear Nostalgists because Problematic gets easier as you go further in the level, unlike Dear Nostalgists. However, in this thread, you say that Nine Circles is easier than Forsaken Neon because Nine Circles gets harder as you go further in the level. So which is it? Your logic is inconsistent. (For the record, I happen to agree with you on both counts, just not for the same reasoning that you've given.) He meant FN gets harder the more you go through the level. NC has that annoying ship and the first part of wave is kinda hard but that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 10:59:15 GMT -5
I'd say Nine Circles is way easier than Forsaken Neon, because in NC, everything before the wave is pretty easy whereas Forsaken Neon just starts off hard and gets harder. Plus, it's really buggy, and that last ship is cancer. In this thread: gdforum.freeforums.net/thread/64256/ti-demon-which-harderyou say that Problematic is easier than Dear Nostalgists because Problematic gets easier as you go further in the level, unlike Dear Nostalgists. However, in this thread, you say that Nine Circles is easier than Forsaken Neon because Nine Circles gets harder as you go further in the level. So which is it? Your logic is inconsistent. (For the record, I happen to agree with you on both counts, just not for the same reasoning that you've given.) I beat both fo the levels a week apart. I made it to 40% on nine circles almost every attempt. The wave is consistent except for one choke point. The last cube is easy once you learn it. Forsaken Neon starts out quite easy (escept fro the ship transition) but one you make it to 48 percent it gets a lot harder. The wave spam is cancer, the cube is cancer, the ball is buggy cancer, and the last ship is cancer. I think he is trying to say that the Nine Circles wave is balanced while Forsaken neon progressively gets harder
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312 posts
Favorite Level: Traffic Trauma
Hardest Demon: Infrared
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Post by Cabbage on Oct 30, 2020 7:49:35 GMT -5
Nine Circles is the easiest but by no means is it an easy demon.
Forsaken neon is very buggy and inconsistent, just hate it. I still believe it's about as difficult as Forest Temple, if not slightly harder.
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Post by Jackattack on Nov 4, 2020 21:39:26 GMT -5
Well, acording to Zobros, they are all 'easy' but I will say NC even though I havent beaten it it still easier. Also if Zobros says a level is 'hard' then we are screwed.
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Discord: ItzGray#6094
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Favorite Level: Psychosis
Hardest Demon: Blade of Justice
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Post by ItzGray on Nov 5, 2020 10:31:28 GMT -5
Absolutely NC is the easiest. I beat NC as my 50th demon after I beat FN not that long before. NC was pretty straightforward to learn and do, and it didn't take me that long, albeit being a little tricky. FN was both kind of straightforward to learn (although the last ship is very confusing to learn) and an absolute PAIN to actually do, especially in its second half. Also, FN took a lot longer than NC for me.
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Discord: Colourmelt#4253
Favorite Level: Thinking Space (by HidekiX) (yes seriously)
Hardest Demon: Supersonic (by ZenthicAlpha & more)
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Post by Colormelt on Nov 14, 2020 2:44:32 GMT -5
Well, it's most likely between Nine Circles and Forsaken Neon, and the deciding factor would probably be skillset. Forsaken Neon is tougher all around, as it has lots of buggy and annoying gameplay concepts, like the double orbs and last ball. Nine Circles is more straight forward and easier to learn, but is difficult namely in the wave. Most of the time, Nine Circles would be found easier since you can learn it easier and is more consistent, but some might struggle with the wave a lot and find Forsaken Neon easier for that reason alone.
Tl;dr I'd say Nine Circles is the easiest overall, but Forsaken Neon is close enough that it could be considered easier under the right circumstances.
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Post by Despey on Nov 20, 2020 10:53:13 GMT -5
Luminium is easiest if you beat enough dual demons.
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