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Favorite Level: Traffic Trauma
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Post by Cabbage on Jan 9, 2020 12:32:16 GMT -5
Some of those are highly subjective. I personally find Killbot pretty underrated in terms of its quality. It's not great but it's not as bad as people say. Phobos is also okay besides the abortion that is the first 2.0 part. Never seen any of the others but I've heard they suck so those probably shouldn't be rated either. My main point is that just because a bad level gets rated every now and then doesn't mean we should rate every bad level out there, and Thinking Space is a prime example of what I find to be a bad level. Tartarus also falls under this line of being bad and unrateworthy. I'm not saying the achievements aren't impressive (because they most certainly are), but a level's rateworthiness should be determined by the overall quality of the level, not by how hard it is. I understand that we don't want the demon list to be filled with very unappealing levels. But some exceptions should be made, at least to these insanely hard projects where the verifier goes through so much trouble only for his achievement to fall into complete obscurity. Remember that extreme demons have brought so much attention to this game with verification videos gaining millions of views. It's essential Robtop shows some appreciation to this one part of the game which has been a main reason for its success, conveniently with a simple rating. Like imagine if Bloodbath had never been rated, because it may have not looked good enough for a 1.9 level.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 13:22:01 GMT -5
Tartarus will be rated eventually lol. Poison told Crohn (who then forwarded the message to all mods) to hold off sending it until dolphy was in the clear
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Post by Dragon on Jan 9, 2020 14:07:21 GMT -5
Some of those are highly subjective. I personally find Killbot pretty underrated in terms of its quality. It's not great but it's not as bad as people say. Phobos is also okay besides the abortion that is the first 2.0 part. Never seen any of the others but I've heard they suck so those probably shouldn't be rated either. My main point is that just because a bad level gets rated every now and then doesn't mean we should rate every bad level out there, and Thinking Space is a prime example of what I find to be a bad level. Tartarus also falls under this line of being bad and unrateworthy. I'm not saying the achievements aren't impressive (because they most certainly are), but a level's rateworthiness should be determined by the overall quality of the level, not by how hard it is. I understand that we don't want the demon list to be filled with very unappealing levels. But some exceptions should be made, at least to these insanely hard projects where the verifier goes through so much trouble only for his achievement to fall into complete obscurity. Remember that extreme demons have brought so much attention to this game with verification videos gaining millions of views. It's essential Robtop shows some appreciation to this one part of the game which has been a main reason for its success, conveniently with a simple rating. Like imagine if Bloodbath had never been rated, because it may have not looked good enough for a 1.9 level. Most of the time verifiers don't really care and I don't really think they should care. I'm pretty sure Atomic said that he doesn't care if the level is rated, because he ultimately did it for the personal achievement rather than the fame aspect. Yes, the videos gain a lot of attention. That is not related to the rating of the level however. People, in the community or outside of it, would still see the video regardless of whether or not it was rated in-game. That doesn't change anything. Nothing would change if Bloodbath had not been rated due to Riot's fame at the time giving it a ton of attention anyway. It would've just been considered a very hard, unrated extreme demon.
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Post by Dragon on Jan 9, 2020 14:08:14 GMT -5
Some of those are highly subjective. I personally find Killbot pretty underrated in terms of its quality. It's not great but it's not as bad as people say. Phobos is also okay besides the abortion that is the first 2.0 part. Never seen any of the others but I've heard they suck so those probably shouldn't be rated either. My main point is that just because a bad level gets rated every now and then doesn't mean we should rate every bad level out there, and Thinking Space is a prime example of what I find to be a bad level. Tartarus also falls under this line of being bad and unrateworthy. I'm not saying the achievements aren't impressive (because they most certainly are), but a level's rateworthiness should be determined by the overall quality of the level, not by how hard it is. lighten up dude what deserves to be rated is robtops opinion and that's objective Robtop can have whatever opinion he wants on what should be rated that doesn't mean I have to agree with it
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312 posts
Favorite Level: Traffic Trauma
Hardest Demon: Infrared
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Post by Cabbage on Jan 9, 2020 16:36:03 GMT -5
Most of the time verifiers don't really care and I don't really think they should care. I'm pretty sure Atomic said that he doesn't care if the level is rated, because he ultimately did it for the personal achievement rather than the fame aspect. Yes, the videos gain a lot of attention. That is not related to the rating of the level however. People, in the community or outside of it, would still see the video regardless of whether or not it was rated in-game. That doesn't change anything. Nothing would change if Bloodbath had not been rated due to Riot's fame at the time giving it a ton of attention anyway. It would've just been considered a very hard, unrated extreme demon. Honestly true. It's fine if TS doesn't get rated, it's likely the hardest unrated challenge in the game so far. I'm glad that Tartarus has a good chance of getting rated.
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Post by this website is dead on Jan 10, 2020 11:04:20 GMT -5
lighten up dude what deserves to be rated is robtops opinion and that's objective Robtop can have whatever opinion he wants on what should be rated that doesn't mean I have to agree with it I was being sarcastic, didn't communicate that clearly sorry
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Post by ghostygd on Jan 10, 2020 13:16:57 GMT -5
Some of those are highly subjective. I personally find Killbot pretty underrated in terms of its quality. It's not great but it's not as bad as people say. Phobos is also okay besides the abortion that is the first 2.0 part. Never seen any of the others but I've heard they suck so those probably shouldn't be rated either. My main point is that just because a bad level gets rated every now and then doesn't mean we should rate every bad level out there, and Thinking Space is a prime example of what I find to be a bad level. Tartarus also falls under this line of being bad and unrateworthy. I'm not saying the achievements aren't impressive (because they most certainly are), but a level's rateworthiness should be determined by the overall quality of the level, not by how hard it is. I understand that we don't want the demon list to be filled with very unappealing levels. But some exceptions should be made, at least to these insanely hard projects where the verifier goes through so much trouble only for his achievement to fall into complete obscurity. Remember that extreme demons have brought so much attention to this game with verification videos gaining millions of views. It's essential Robtop shows some appreciation to this one part of the game which has been a main reason for its success, conveniently with a simple rating. Like imagine if Bloodbath had never been rated, because it may have not looked good enough for a 1.9 level. More difficult doesn't necessarily mean better. You completely missed the point of a star rating. Rates are intended to be awarded to good levels, not just some random 2.0 trash that happens to be very hard. Rates have absolutely nothing to do with difficulty or verifiers.
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Post by hexhammer! on Mar 29, 2020 18:15:54 GMT -5
Hopefully it doesn’t end up like Thinking Space and just sits unrated in spite of the work that went into verifying something that obscenely difficult. this screenshot both captures the deco standard and the gameplay standard of thinking space and really, it can just stay as an unrated challenge that only the truly passionate (atomic) could beat yes of course what's rate-worthy is subjective but come on lol well, fuck me then
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312 posts
Favorite Level: Traffic Trauma
Hardest Demon: Infrared
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Post by Cabbage on Apr 1, 2020 9:40:24 GMT -5
this screenshot both captures the deco standard and the gameplay standard of thinking space and really, it can just stay as an unrated challenge that only the truly passionate (atomic) could beat yes of course what's rate-worthy is subjective but come on lol well, fuck me then wait... what
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Post by GoodSmile on Apr 1, 2020 10:45:36 GMT -5
Excuse me where is our favorite necropost hammer because we deal with Jan 11 and Mar 30 which is mOrE thAn 2 MonTHs + hexhammer's pOsT iS oFftOp!!1
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Post by hexhammer! on Apr 1, 2020 12:06:48 GMT -5
Excuse me where is our favorite necropost hammer because we deal with Jan 11 and Mar 30 which is mOrE thAn 2 MonTHs + hexhammer's pOsT iS oFftOp!!1 how do i retweet a forum post
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 6:12:52 GMT -5
Excuse me where is our favorite necropost hammer because we deal with Jan 11 and Mar 30 which is mOrE thAn 2 MonTHs + hexhammer's pOsT iS oFftOp!!1 how do i retweet a forum post divide 0 by 0
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Post by this website is dead on Apr 11, 2020 11:54:12 GMT -5
how do i retweet a forum post divide 0 by 0 well, it's Harder than Back on Track, so there's that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 20:19:56 GMT -5
well, it's Harder than Back on Track, so there's that. no.
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Post by this website is dead on Apr 12, 2020 8:37:09 GMT -5
well, it's Harder than Back on Track, so there's that. no. Fair enough. That's your opinion, and I respect it.
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