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Post by 70UNIK on Mar 15, 2019 16:13:22 GMT -5
Have you noticed that in many of the extreme demons today, especially the top 10s, that they almost always follow these themes: *A red hell (or any other coloured hell theme) style (Bloodlust, Yatagarasu) (although that itself is dying) *A tech style demon (Zodiac, Plasma Pulse Finale) *A monochrome (ie: AcropoliX, Black Blizzard) styled demon *Other themes that have demonic or god imagery... What I'm telling is the lack of diversity in the themes of the extreme demons of today. Many of the themes they lack include: *Modernistic (Optical tried to make one, but abandoned it quickly) *Cartoony styled levels (Though that may change with JonathanGD) *Vaporwave styled levels *Serponge-esque game levels? Hopefully in the future, some more creators would utilise more themes for the extreme demon collection in Geometry Dash and not just have it limited to the typical tech/demonic styles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 16:17:52 GMT -5
I'd actually much rather not have any modernistic or cartoon style levels as those are basically the styles I hate most out of all of them What you failed to mention was the stupid amount of extreme demons that I like to call 'colour demons', demons that change every colour constantly (celestial force, subversive, artificial dream, etc). I think that style is the most overused one of all and It's kinda boring honestly. My favourite type of extreme is the monochrome style ones. I like when things stick to a theme, it feels more like a level to me.
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Post by Stormfly on Mar 15, 2019 19:22:42 GMT -5
not sure if it counts but there is my level Achondrite thats extreme demon in-game right now if that counts as diversity
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Post by Ezel on Mar 16, 2019 4:48:58 GMT -5
I don't really think modernistic or cartoonish styles would fit with levels of such difficulty. They're often rather simplistic and extreme demons are usually intense levels, so it'd need a rather more energetic or interesting style.
My favorite levels are probably just themed levels. I liked when people nail a certain style which makes the level stand out.
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Post by headhonchkrow on Mar 16, 2019 10:20:48 GMT -5
I feel like the current unoriginal state of extreme demons just represents a wider laziness within this community when it comes to making levels. Related to that is the fact that there are lots of extreme demon megacollabs being churned out non-stop and it's much more difficult to make themed levels that also maintain cohesion throughout (if you don't manage that then levels with more complex themes i.e. not just a color palette like red and black are much more negatively impacted.) Most collabs like that are just started to get famous off being extreme demons anyways so for them it's much easier to just go for less interesting "do whatever you want" styled collabs like Blaze mentioned
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Post by Y0rk on Mar 16, 2019 11:06:30 GMT -5
I think the problem is, as others have mentioned, is that extreme demons aren't made just to be a level, but to gain attention. As headhonchkrow said, many teams are producing extreme demon MCs just to become popular. I feel as if that the solution to this would be that when making extreme demons, we shouldn't make them just to be difficult or to gain popularity, but to make levels that are original and enjoyable to play. To put it simply, we shouldn't make the level's difficulty a defining trait of the level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 17:57:32 GMT -5
some extreme demon collabs focus on just getting stuff done to get famous, since extreme demons are always done for fame or difficulty. maybe some demons focus on deco, e.g. god eater, but that has its own theme youve already mentioned
the only unique extreme demon i know is definitely the one, the only, "the this" by nixtysine and 19 other cool guys
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 18:41:25 GMT -5
the only unique... i know is definitely the one... thanks
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 4:11:16 GMT -5
the only unique... i know is definitely the one... thanks it was accidental but its still true tbh. your content is epicly unique
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Post by Igno on Mar 18, 2019 18:05:06 GMT -5
Ouroborous actually looks somewhat interesting, although it's basically just a single color scheme, which is admittedly kind of lame. It'd be nice if we just had straight-up normal design/effect/art levels for extreme demons. There's almost this stigma around creating extreme demons that they have to be thematic or super over-the-top or something. It's dumb.
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Post by Subzero on Mar 18, 2019 19:05:58 GMT -5
Some parts of Quicksand actually look amazing, and the theme isn't really common among extreme demons iirc.
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Post by pearl3scent on Mar 19, 2019 22:07:44 GMT -5
Vaporwave is a style? News to me.
Also, the other ideas are not very good. Modernistic levels usually suck, as do cartoonish levels and Serponge's little side games. Sorry if you don't agree with on the last point but the gameplay of those levels is usually shit.
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Post by RTef on Mar 19, 2019 22:59:56 GMT -5
Another extremely popular style is random rainbow-coloured megacollabs. Levels that are included in this group are: Zodiac, Artificial Ascent, Digital Descent, TeaM Z, Gamma, Celestial Force, Photovoltaic II, Fabrication and many more.
Some themes I would like to see: Modernistic Desert-themed: I know Quicksand and Belloq exist. Cyberpunk: Night Rider will hopefully fill this void Ocean-themed: Ice-themed levels like Arctic Arena exist but an underwater level would be nice Nature-themed Casino or party themed Electric-themed: Something like AbstractDark's style or even a level like Cyber Abyss
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Post by unnn on Mar 20, 2019 14:47:31 GMT -5
I would rather have a hell themed extreme demon with a clear gameplay than a modernistic styled one with very messy gameplay because of deco.
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Post by genericqueso on Mar 20, 2019 15:46:08 GMT -5
If y'all are disappointed with cartoony levels then you surely haven't seen ScorchVx's latest stuff Anyways there's yet to be an exceptionally good design extreme, which piques my interest considering the amount of really good design creators out there that could probably make it happen
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