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Post by Ezel on Nov 13, 2019 4:58:16 GMT -5
Okay so... Supersonic recently got its rating changed to insane demon. I'm aware that a lot of people consider it a hard demon, but it's usually on the edge between hard and insane. I'd like to ask if this level would be suitable for the list or not. I feel like it may be, but because of its inconsistent gameplay, it might be a tad too hard for it. Not sure, I'll wait for your opinions.  |
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Favorite Level: Stalemate by Nox
Hardest Demon: Necropolis by iiiNeptuneiii
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Post by Swifter on Nov 13, 2019 7:02:59 GMT -5
Okay so... Supersonic recently got its rating changed to insane demon. I'm aware that a lot of people consider it a hard demon, but it's usually on the edge between hard and insane. I'd like to ask if this level would be suitable for the list or not. I feel like it may be, but because of its inconsistent gameplay, it might be a tad too hard for it. Not sure, I'll wait for your opinions. Definitely hard demon. There is no way it’s harder than 8o (which I consider the easiest insane demon). It also seems easier than Stalemate from what I’ve played. It deserves a hard demon rating imo. |
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Post by jollow250 on Nov 16, 2019 18:35:08 GMT -5
Deadly Clubstep is hard demon again.
Chaotic Hell is a hard demon again.
Fractured Galaxy (by xaro and others), I can still say that it is hard demon difficulty after finally beating it.
Theory of Intercept (By Dorami) is an old memory demon that was a hard demon for a long time and got changed.
10 (by T3mpl4t3) is an old memory demon that was turned insane a while ago. I think it may be reasonable for here by this point potentially.
Windy circles (by KeiAs) you probably know what this level is. Been told it is too easy for insane.
Diabolical Error (by Flukester) I thought this was already on the list but apparently not. It is a really easy level for insane.
Extreme Chaos (by Netherdon) This level exists. Was hard demon for a long time, got changed. I am so unsure about how hard it is.
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Post by Ezel on Nov 16, 2019 19:09:16 GMT -5
Deadly Clubstep is hard demon again. Chaotic Hell is a hard demon again. Fractured Galaxy (by xaro and others), I can still say that it is hard demon difficulty after finally beating it. Theory of Intercept (By Dorami) is an old memory demon that was a hard demon for a long time and got changed. 10 (by T3mpl4t3) is an old memory demon that was turned insane a while ago. I think it may be reasonable for here by this point potentially. Windy circles (by KeiAs) you probably know what this level is. Been told it is too easy for insane. Diabolical Error (by Flukester) I thought this was already on the list but apparently not. It is a really easy level for insane. Extreme Chaos (by Netherdon) This level exists. Was hard demon for a long time, got changed. I am so unsure about how hard it is. Windy Circles is on this list, but in the secret way category. It's not just not hard enough for an insane demon, it also has a skip that makes the last third of the level much easier. I will check the rest later though. |
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Post by jollow250 on Nov 17, 2019 15:58:14 GMT -5
Deadly Clubstep is hard demon again. Chaotic Hell is a hard demon again. Fractured Galaxy (by xaro and others), I can still say that it is hard demon difficulty after finally beating it. Theory of Intercept (By Dorami) is an old memory demon that was a hard demon for a long time and got changed. 10 (by T3mpl4t3) is an old memory demon that was turned insane a while ago. I think it may be reasonable for here by this point potentially. Windy circles (by KeiAs) you probably know what this level is. Been told it is too easy for insane. Diabolical Error (by Flukester) I thought this was already on the list but apparently not. It is a really easy level for insane. Extreme Chaos (by Netherdon) This level exists. Was hard demon for a long time, got changed. I am so unsure about how hard it is. Windy Circles is on this list, but in the secret way category. It's not just not hard enough for an insane demon, it also has a skip that makes the last third of the level much easier. I will check the rest later though. I also missed F3chs, a recently rated memory demon that could be either hard or medium. and Doomsday X by Etzer is an older memory demon that got changed recently and the two that aren't insane should probably be removed |
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Post by Ezel on Nov 17, 2019 17:18:37 GMT -5
Removed both of them and added F3hcs. I'm not sure about the rest of the suggestions, I haven't really played them. I will wait for more opinions.
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Favorite Level: Traffic Trauma
Hardest Demon: Infrared
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Post by Cabbage on Nov 18, 2019 7:20:13 GMT -5
Insidious step and Back on Mountain are two insane demons which I believe are very achievable for players trying to beat their first insane.
Also I believe if Windy Landscape is an insane demon then Forest Temple should also be rerated to one, based on what Ezel told me in a different thread. FT would probably be on the easier side but still pretty difficult compared to some average hard demons. In fact I believe a bunch of current hard demons could go for an insane rating.
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Post by Ezel on Nov 18, 2019 8:49:16 GMT -5
Insidious step and Back on Mountain are two insane demons which I believe are very achievable for players trying to beat their first insane. Also I believe if Windy Landscape is an insane demon then Forest Temple should also be rerated to one, based on what Ezel told me in a different thread. FT would probably be on the easier side but still pretty difficult compared to some average hard demons. In fact I believe a bunch of current hard demons could go for an insane rating. Back on Mountain already is in there. About Windy Landscape, it's people who were rating it insane demon. The average "skilled" player who has beaten often considers it a hard demon. |
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Favorite Level: Traffic Trauma
Hardest Demon: Infrared
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Post by Cabbage on Nov 18, 2019 11:41:23 GMT -5
Insidious step and Back on Mountain are two insane demons which I believe are very achievable for players trying to beat their first insane. Also I believe if Windy Landscape is an insane demon then Forest Temple should also be rerated to one, based on what Ezel told me in a different thread. FT would probably be on the easier side but still pretty difficult compared to some average hard demons. In fact I believe a bunch of current hard demons could go for an insane rating. Back on Mountain already is in there. About Windy Landscape, it's people who were rating it insane demon. The average "skilled" player who has beaten often considers it a hard demon. But if they rated WL an insane demon how come they didn't also rate FT an insane? They seem pretty similar in difficulty, and the demon ratings system only came to existence after these 2 levels had already been released. |
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Post by Ezel on Nov 18, 2019 13:52:10 GMT -5
Back on Mountain already is in there. About Windy Landscape, it's people who were rating it insane demon. The average "skilled" player who has beaten often considers it a hard demon. But if they rated WL an insane demon how come they didn't also rate FT an insane? They seem pretty similar in difficulty, and the demon ratings system only came to existence after these 2 levels had already been released. That's because some people look at the beginning and they think it's insanely difficult. WL has a harder beginning than Forest Temple, unfortunately they don't really pay attention to the rest of the level. |
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Favorite Level: Fire Aura by Sumsar
Hardest Demon: Quantum Processing by Riot and more
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Post by AOB on Nov 18, 2019 23:18:02 GMT -5
Personally I don't think Ultimate Demon Mix is easy for an insane demon. I do agree that some parts are very easy (cough Chaoz Airflow cough) but its absurdly long length and consistent difficulty make it a good challenge for the majority of players if you ask me.
One possible "easy" insane demon could be The Caverns II. It's moderately challenging with its awkward timings and straight fly but it could be considered a hard demon by a good amount of players, especially since the end is pretty easy.
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Post by Ezel on Nov 19, 2019 6:16:38 GMT -5
Personally I don't think Ultimate Demon Mix is easy for an insane demon. I do agree that some parts are very easy (cough Chaoz Airflow cough) but its absurdly long length and consistent difficulty make it a good challenge for the majority of players if you ask me. One possible "easy" insane demon could be The Caverns II. It's moderately challenging with its awkward timings and straight fly but it could be considered a hard demon by a good amount of players, especially since the end is pretty easy. Most people consider The Caverns II to be harder than UDM. For now I won't be adding it unless several players suggest that it belongs in there. I feel like it has some parts that are rather tricky. |
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Favorite Level: Traffic Trauma
Hardest Demon: Infrared
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Post by Cabbage on Nov 19, 2019 11:27:16 GMT -5
One possible "easy" insane demon could be The Caverns II. It's moderately challenging with its awkward timings and straight fly but it could be considered a hard demon by a good amount of players, especially since the end is pretty easy. The Caverns II has absurdly evil timings. I greatly underestimated it after completing the first one, so yes it definitely deserves an insane demon rating imo because of some very stupid sections. |
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Discord: AOB#9352
Favorite Level: Fire Aura by Sumsar
Hardest Demon: Quantum Processing by Riot and more
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Post by AOB on Nov 19, 2019 16:37:29 GMT -5
Those are good points. I just personally found TC2 easier than UDM, but that's just me.
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Post by jollow250 on Dec 24, 2019 14:00:31 GMT -5
Two Invisible Eyes used to be insane before rightfully changing to a hard demon... it is now insane again.
The level may seem to have a hard ending at first sight but I can assure you it gets easy once you just learn what to do. It uses a weird size portal wave trick. It is just a matter of learning.
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