Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 22:18:14 GMT -5
Jul 23, 2018 20:17:54 GMT -5 @ethanw12 said:
Effort is one of the most important factors when a level is to be rated. This includes the verification effort. Work shouldn’t be put to waste.1. Effort in verification isn't an important factor when it comes to deciding what and what not to rate. Other factors are.
Levels in Geometry Dash are meant to be a showcase of what a certain players can achieve in the level creator, whether it be good decoration, gameplay, ingenuity, or all three. So why then, should a level that has none of these qualities, be rated over a level that does, just because the verifier put more effort into beating the level because it's difficult? I'm completely fine with extreme demons being rated as long as they are good. If a lot of these extreme demons had the difficulty of average 5-6* levels, then no one would be clamoring for them to get rated. Sure, I may be moving the goalposts with the comparison but I don't care. The day that difficulty basically guarantees a rating for an otherwise mediocre level is a day which I hope never comes. Effort is one of the things I use to grade levels. Not only by its verification, but equally important by its decoration and building history. Many creators put months into levels; whether that’s verifying it or building it. RobTop should try to make people happy and give people what they hope for if it is done well.
2. There's no real reason for rating these levels in the first place, except...
Attention. If these levels were to go on the "Official" Demons List, (which, bear in mind, requires demons to be rated in order to be on the list), then the people who beat them would get more recognition. Simple as that. My only issue is that, if these levels were as hard as the community and the verifiers make them out to be, then why does the issue of the level's rating even matter? Well, you want people to find the level, right?You already beat a level which many could only dream of doing, so just having the achievement of being good enough to beat a nigh-impossible level should hold its own weight, right? But no. Many players aren't content with that. They want to be known; on social media, YouTube, wherever on the internet they go. And getting their names on a well-known list within the community is one stepping stone towards attaining their goal; they want people to know that they're better than the others, even though people already do. I don’t really see how this adds to the arguement... this was a rather confusing read. People can be famous for beating many hard levels in Geometry Dash, but if more people knew a level existed, it would be more famous, and therefore, people would beat it.
3. "If RobTop rated [bad level], why doesn't he rate this bad level, too?"
Before you accuse me of a strawman's argument, I've seen this multiple times across numerous levels and some social media platforms. This is a dangerous way of thinking within the community. By doing this, we're effectively encouraging Rob to rate levels that aren't relatively good, and justify it because he's made worse mistakes in the past, whether it be once, twice, or even frequently. I see people bring up some questionable rating decisions from RobTop from Buckle Your Pants to Hungry Humphrey, to Buff This. And whenever something isn't rated, there's always a chance that someone says "I can't believe that RobTop rated Buckle Your Pants but not [insert demon here]". Luckily, I've seen this statement a lot less now, or maybe it's because I've distanced myself from the community. I actually think RobTop should rate more rather low-quality levels. It encourages aspiring creators to make more levels, and, considering the criticism they will get, make better levels in the future and maybe even get famous.
I do agree that some extreme demons do deserve to be rated. But there’s a reason that a lot of these ones haven’t been for a long time. Many of these just don’t cut it; they’re boring, annoying, messy, uncreative, lazy, you know, the sorts. And when “effort” is the only thing you have going for your level, that’s not a good sign.
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