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Post by Subzero on Jul 4, 2018 13:04:02 GMT -5
Wait what are you trying to say? The stores are stupid or guns are stupid? I don't really get what's too "risky and dangerous". I mean that openly selling guns to everyone may be a bit too risky to be a good idea, especially in public places. Can't tell how they work in USA, but I've heard that people tend to sell weapons openly to people. I might be wrong though. Huh? I said that background checks and denying kids should be strictly enforced. Having a gun can be especially useful in lower income neighborhoods. I'm not saying open up gun stores in malls, but to not give people access to that is absurd in my eyes. I'm big on people kill people, not guns. |
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Post by Ezel on Jul 4, 2018 13:11:52 GMT -5
I mean that openly selling guns to everyone may be a bit too risky to be a good idea, especially in public places. Can't tell how they work in USA, but I've heard that people tend to sell weapons openly to people. I might be wrong though. Huh? I said that background checks and denying kids should be strictly enforced. Having a gun can be especially useful in lower income neighborhoods. I'm not saying open up gun stores in malls, but to not give people access to that is absurd in my eyes. I'm big on people kill people, not guns. Why would you need the gun then? For me it'd feel rather unecessary but maybe I'm not aware of something. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 13:14:52 GMT -5
2) Some people are utter bigots. There's this website I'm on that is run by some people in Massachusetts, and part of their policy is that they claim they support all opinions, belief systems, religions, sexualities, etc. equally and try not to encourage one over another, yet they joined the LGBT community on that site, changed their avatars to rainbow icons, and joined in the rubbing of LGBT in non-supporters' faces. i cant believe they reminded you lgbt people exist how awful of them #therealbigotry the point of doing that stuff isnt to somehow be bigoted towards non-lgbt people its to support lgbt people, who have faced various sorts of oppression throughout history. im not sure how showing support to lgbt people is a better example of bigotry than the homophobes/transphobes/etc. who are the whole reason lgbt people have a pride month in the first place but ok im not going to make any more posts arguing about this because honestly its a bit of a waste of time to argue with someone who thinks trying to make lgbt people feel more accepted is bigotry i just had to get this out of my system |
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Post by Subzero on Jul 4, 2018 13:20:13 GMT -5
Huh? I said that background checks and denying kids should be strictly enforced. Having a gun can be especially useful in lower income neighborhoods. I'm not saying open up gun stores in malls, but to not give people access to that is absurd in my eyes. I'm big on people kill people, not guns. Why would you need the gun then? For me it'd feel rather unecessary but maybe I'm not aware of something. As I said before, denying kids should be strictly enforced. I don't need one. |
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Post by Subzero on Jul 4, 2018 13:22:58 GMT -5
2) Some people are utter bigots. There's this website I'm on that is run by some people in Massachusetts, and part of their policy is that they claim they support all opinions, belief systems, religions, sexualities, etc. equally and try not to encourage one over another, yet they joined the LGBT community on that site, changed their avatars to rainbow icons, and joined in the rubbing of LGBT in non-supporters' faces. i cant believe they reminded you lgbt people exist how awful of them #therealbigotry the point of doing that stuff isnt to somehow be bigoted towards non-lgbt people its to support lgbt people, who have faced various sorts of oppression throughout history. im not sure how showing support to lgbt people is a better example of bigotry than the homophobes/transphobes/etc. who are the whole reason lgbt people have a pride month in the first place but ok im not going to make any more posts arguing about this because honestly its a bit of a waste of time to argue with someone who thinks trying to make lgbt people feel more accepted is bigotry i just had to get this out of my system Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's what he was trying to say. He was claiming that they said they won't pick favorites when they so obviously did with the LGBT community, and some other people may feel excluded as a result of their double standards. |
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Post by Cyclo on Jul 4, 2018 13:34:38 GMT -5
Political topics are just guaranteed to lead to trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 13:39:05 GMT -5
i cant believe they reminded you lgbt people exist how awful of them #therealbigotry the point of doing that stuff isnt to somehow be bigoted towards non-lgbt people its to support lgbt people, who have faced various sorts of oppression throughout history. im not sure how showing support to lgbt people is a better example of bigotry than the homophobes/transphobes/etc. who are the whole reason lgbt people have a pride month in the first place but ok im not going to make any more posts arguing about this because honestly its a bit of a waste of time to argue with someone who thinks trying to make lgbt people feel more accepted is bigotry i just had to get this out of my system Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's what he was trying to say. He was claiming that they said they won't pick favorites when they so obviously did with the LGBT community, and some other people may feel excluded as a result of their double standards. i cant tell if you mean he wasnt trying to say it was bigoted or what if so he used it as an example of people in the us being bigoted so uh the reason theres no month where companies have a non-lgbt flag or whatever is because mainstream society already somewhat revolves around non-lgbt people. compare the amount of straight romances in hollywood movies with the amount of lgbt romances, or the amount of cis characters compared to the amount of trans characters, and youll see what i mean pride month isnt about turning a bunch of companies, websites etc. into a gays only club for a month, and while i could see why some people would think that without being involved in the lgbt community for very long or at all, its still missing the point maybe if straight weddings were outlawed during pride month or 'straight' started getting used as an insult id see the point but as of right now it seems more like people just getting mad that lgbt people are getting acknowledged because pride month isnt about 'picking favorites' with the lgbt community its about finally getting any sort of acknowledgement sorry if this seemed incoherent or i repeated myself too much writing this sort of stuff is always a bit stressful for me |
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Post by TheSynner on Jul 4, 2018 14:01:39 GMT -5
Political topics are just guaranteed to lead to trouble. What I'm seeing here is simple dispute between people with different opinions; I don't think it's turned into a mess just yet. |
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Post by Subzero on Jul 4, 2018 14:09:03 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's what he was trying to say. He was claiming that they said they won't pick favorites when they so obviously did with the LGBT community, and some other people may feel excluded as a result of their double standards. i cant tell if you mean he wasnt trying to say it was bigoted or what if so he used it as an example of people in the us being bigoted so uh the reason theres no month where companies have a non-lgbt flag or whatever is because mainstream society already somewhat revolves around non-lgbt people. compare the amount of straight romances in hollywood movies with the amount of lgbt romances, or the amount of cis characters compared to the amount of trans characters, and youll see what i mean pride month isnt about turning a bunch of companies, websites etc. into a gays only club for a month, and while i could see why some people would think that without being involved in the lgbt community for very long or at all, its still missing the point maybe if straight weddings were outlawed during pride month or 'straight' started getting used as an insult id see the point but as of right now it seems more like people just getting mad that lgbt people are getting acknowledged because pride month isnt about 'picking favorites' with the lgbt community its about finally getting any sort of acknowledgement sorry if this seemed incoherent or i repeated myself too much writing this sort of stuff is always a bit stressful for me I don't think it takes 9 TV shows and companies advertising how ok it is to be gay in order for the LGBT to feel regular. If it does, well, then you should probably get out of your heads that the world will revolve around anyone, because frankly, it doesn't favor anyone for their sexuality. Everyone has the same opportunities for jobs and really the only way for someone to have an unfair advantage is for that person to know someone of high status in the job. To outlaw straight weddings is ridiculous and you should really not think that the world is just oh so loving towards straight people because it's not. The world hates everyone equally, and you may see a few exceptions to that rule but apart from that there's nothing telling you not to be LGBT. Besides, what you're saying can apply to all other communities who feel they have been rejected by society, too. Overall your point about LGBT awareness is that, well, people are VERY aware of its existence, and it gets just as much recognition from celebrities and supporters as it does most other groups. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 14:27:44 GMT -5
ew trump lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 14:40:17 GMT -5
2) Some people are utter bigots. There's this website I'm on that is run by some people in Massachusetts, and part of their policy is that they claim they support all opinions, belief systems, religions, sexualities, etc. equally and try not to encourage one over another, yet they joined the LGBT community on that site, changed their avatars to rainbow icons, and joined in the rubbing of LGBT in non-supporters' faces. i cant believe they reminded you lgbt people exist how awful of them #therealbigotry the point of doing that stuff isnt to somehow be bigoted towards non-lgbt people its to support lgbt people, who have faced various sorts of oppression throughout history. im not sure how showing support to lgbt people is a better example of bigotry than the homophobes/transphobes/etc. who are the whole reason lgbt people have a pride month in the first place but ok im not going to make any more posts arguing about this because honestly its a bit of a waste of time to argue with someone who thinks trying to make lgbt people feel more accepted is bigotry i just had to get this out of my system I think it's good to let everyone feel accepted, however there are young children on that site who, during Pride Month, will probably discover some stuff related to that which they don't understand, and it may be contrary to the ideals of their parents; in that case problems may arise. The reason why I think it's bigotry is because I think that it's not wrong to join in events like that in some cases, but their policy says that they will remain neutral at all times and will treat every group equally and try not to show preference of one over another, which they haven't really done. Again, it's good to let everyone feel accepted and it's not wrong to do that, but they didn't have to go all in like that. Even though LGBT has apparently been shunned throughout the years and only just got an opportunity to express themselves- oh wait, it's a predominantly American site, most of them could really already have done it years ago but they take the opportunity to do it now - and you know what they do with it on that site? They rub it in everyone's faces, totally and completely. It's not even necessary, yet they did it. Almost every single pro-LGBT person on that site (including the management) I've seen has attempted to force it on people; they don't face any consequences for it, and I have never seen any bans for that. Anti-LGBT people on that site, however, have a very different story. I've received two alerts for stating why I don't support it (once in response to a question) and even got my profile edited for making a joke about it. I've seen alerts, blocks, bans, you name it, for doing that. If one group's allowed to rub their beliefs in the faces of a different group but the other group's not, how is that not bigotry? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 15:08:27 GMT -5
i cant tell if you mean he wasnt trying to say it was bigoted or what if so he used it as an example of people in the us being bigoted so uh the reason theres no month where companies have a non-lgbt flag or whatever is because mainstream society already somewhat revolves around non-lgbt people. compare the amount of straight romances in hollywood movies with the amount of lgbt romances, or the amount of cis characters compared to the amount of trans characters, and youll see what i mean pride month isnt about turning a bunch of companies, websites etc. into a gays only club for a month, and while i could see why some people would think that without being involved in the lgbt community for very long or at all, its still missing the point maybe if straight weddings were outlawed during pride month or 'straight' started getting used as an insult id see the point but as of right now it seems more like people just getting mad that lgbt people are getting acknowledged because pride month isnt about 'picking favorites' with the lgbt community its about finally getting any sort of acknowledgement sorry if this seemed incoherent or i repeated myself too much writing this sort of stuff is always a bit stressful for me I don't think it takes 9 TV shows and companies advertising how ok it is to be gay in order for the LGBT to feel regular. If it does, well, then you should probably get out of your heads that the world will revolve around anyone, because frankly, it doesn't favor anyone for their sexuality. Everyone has the same opportunities for jobs and really the only way for someone to have an unfair advantage is for that person to know someone of high status in the job. To outlaw straight weddings is ridiculous and you should really not think that the world is just oh so loving towards straight people because it's not. The world hates everyone equally, and you may see a few exceptions to that rule but apart from that there's nothing telling you not to be LGBT. Besides, what you're saying can apply to all other communities who feel they have been rejected by society, too. Overall your point about LGBT awareness is that, well, people are VERY aware of its existence, and it gets just as much recognition from celebrities and supporters as it does most other groups. i know outlawing straight weddings is ridiculous and stupid that was my point lol. i brought it up because there are many countries where gay marriage is illegal. i also dont think the world should revolve around anyone either. im glad we agree on that. \ im not sure why you point out what i say can apply to other communities whore rejected by society too, like are you saying that since murderers feel theyre rejected from society gay pride is the same as murder pride or ????? my point about ads about being ok to be gay or whatever is that theres a noticable inequality in representation. the point isnt just lgbt people feeling 'regular', its about society as a whole not considering us 'irregular'. also "because frankly, it doesn't favor anyone for their sexuality" is, frankly, completely baseless. there are many countries where being gay is illegal, including some where its literally punishable by death. i think that also counts as society telling you not to be lgbt too as much as the world totally hates straight people i doubt there are any countries where its literally punishable by death. nah though youre completely right the world totally hates everyone equally i know people are aware lgbt people exist but do you really think theyre aware about most things about gay rights? or do you think they heard about gay marriage being legalized in the us a few years ago and decide we have no problems anymore? if anyone want to talk about this to me any more id rather do it in pms because i dont want to derail the thread. and also dont because frankly im sick and fucking tired of having to defend any company that acknowledges my existence, or having to defend what i say on gay rights when im literally in the lgbt community. youd think id know more about the subject from my experience but nah im apparently completely wrong, at all times. sorry if i got rude but honestly i dont really care. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 15:09:52 GMT -5
bad censorship laws
they censor the word "stupid"
they cut off "violent scenes" of even fucking spongebob (e.g. plankton being squished gets cut)
they censor even 0.000000000001 mm cleavage
they fast-forward every movie credits
they make bad dubs of cartoons
rant over
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Post by Subzero on Jul 4, 2018 15:15:03 GMT -5
I don't think it takes 9 TV shows and companies advertising how ok it is to be gay in order for the LGBT to feel regular. If it does, well, then you should probably get out of your heads that the world will revolve around anyone, because frankly, it doesn't favor anyone for their sexuality. Everyone has the same opportunities for jobs and really the only way for someone to have an unfair advantage is for that person to know someone of high status in the job. To outlaw straight weddings is ridiculous and you should really not think that the world is just oh so loving towards straight people because it's not. The world hates everyone equally, and you may see a few exceptions to that rule but apart from that there's nothing telling you not to be LGBT. Besides, what you're saying can apply to all other communities who feel they have been rejected by society, too. Overall your point about LGBT awareness is that, well, people are VERY aware of its existence, and it gets just as much recognition from celebrities and supporters as it does most other groups. i know outlawing straight weddings is ridiculous and stupid that was my point lol. i brought it up because there are many countries where gay marriage is illegal. i also dont think the world should revolve around anyone either. im glad we agree on that. \ im not sure why you point out what i say can apply to other communities whore rejected by society too, like are you saying that since murderers feel theyre rejected from society gay pride is the same as murder pride or ????? my point about ads about being ok to be gay or whatever is that theres a noticable inequality in representation. the point isnt just lgbt people feeling 'regular', its about society as a whole not considering us 'irregular'. also "because frankly, it doesn't favor anyone for their sexuality" is, frankly, completely baseless. there are many countries where being gay is illegal, including some where its literally punishable by death. i think that also counts as society telling you not to be lgbt too as much as the world totally hates straight people i doubt there are any countries where its literally punishable by death. nah though youre completely right the world totally hates everyone equally i know people are aware lgbt people exist but do you really think theyre aware about most things about gay rights? or do you think they heard about gay marriage being legalized in the us a few years ago and decide we have no problems anymore? if anyone want to talk about this to me any more id rather do it in pms because i dont want to derail the thread. and also dont because frankly im sick and fucking tired of having to defend any company that acknowledges my existence, or having to defend what i say on gay rights when im literally in the lgbt community. youd think id know more about the subject from my experience but nah im apparently completely wrong, at all times. sorry if i got rude but honestly i dont really care. 1) Communities that make sense and don't harm others. I didn't think that needed clarification but okay. 2) It's not baseless and that's a fact for the US. Around the world isn't exactly important since this thread promotes discussion about your COUNTRY. 3) Well they should be aware, otherwise don't go out protesting how terrible it is to not have rights. Considering how "aware" you are that you have such opportunities, all your other points are invalidated because you can't say the world favors straights and then agree that we all have opportunities but it's everyone else's problem to inform uneducated LGBT community members on this. And if you're so outraged by gaining support then you should consider changing your attitude towards them. That's the last of my posts, too, but it was fun while it lasted. |
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Post by Alex PG / LXPG on Jul 4, 2018 17:09:55 GMT -5
Could do better in sports other than badminton.
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