505 posts
Discord: jordan853#2175
Clans: Blazediscord77 and Aquaria
Creator Points: 0
Favorite Level: Firewall by Hinds1324
Hardest Demon: Incipient by Jenkins
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Post by jordan853 on Jun 13, 2018 11:18:53 GMT -5
I agree with everything on this list, apart from 1 level. Killbot. How can you think that it's bad? I know that the gameplay isn't fully perfect, but the decoration and flashes are there because the level is themed on a virus that bugs out your computer and sends you death threats. It looks good compared to everything else on this list, and it fits the theme really well. You can't fucking see anything, not even the icon. This level just looks sloppy/messy as fuck, the flashes are so frequent that they can legitimately cause epilepsy, on top of having the worst gameplay in a demon since Buff This (thanks Practice Mode). Just look at this (because why not) I highly agree with DubstepJoltik (even though I never played this level) that the gameplay looks really annoying The level is mostly memory based (excluding a few parts) with some parts filled with 1.9 copy+paste blocks which are topped off with constant red flashes to hide some of the poorly made designs and to block the player's vision (together with the hide player triggers if there are any). Just because a level is supposed to be messy doesn't make this level any better. I'm aware that levels are supposed to be hard and annoying but the annoyance level in this is honestly too far. (That last sentence is extremely biased.) Edit: I just realized I quoted Dubstep as well.
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Post by Hexaedr on Jun 13, 2018 12:16:58 GMT -5
I agree with everything on this list, apart from 1 level. Killbot. How can you think that it's bad? I know that the gameplay isn't fully perfect, but the decoration and flashes are there because the level is themed on a virus that bugs out your computer and sends you death threats. It looks good compared to everything else on this list, and it fits the theme really well. It isn't actually that original, since this level is supposed to be an UNOFFICAL SEQUEL. That theme was widely used back in 1.9. This level is a sequel to "Chaotic Machine", but that's not only the level, that uses this theme. Level, that use the "virus" theme and was released before Killbot: - Beat the system by ItsGwMe
- Virus Adventure by ExploreX6
- Virus 0101 1010 by OthonWronger
- System Error by ArinGD
And many more... (It's a style, bro!)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 18:50:53 GMT -5
i really dont think killbot is as bad as lots of people say it is for two main reasons
1. just because its memory-based doesnt mean its a bad level, or even that the gameplay is bad. many people like memory, and in any case i dont think its that much worse than, for example, most krazyman gameplay (which original as it is, is usually pretty annoying)
2. in my opinion at least, the decoration is more than the sum of its parts. the reason people like me enjoy the deco so much isnt specifically because of the block designs, red flashes, etc. its the way they all fit together to create a visual experience largely unique to the level (yes, other levels have the cyber theme, but do any of them do it in the same way?)
saying its bad enough to be on the same level as something like minor or cosmos is frankly ridiculous imo. however thats just my opinion, please dont take this as me saying not liking the level is invalid
for an actual contribution to the threads main topic i really dislike minor and emit. both look really bad and dont even have good gameplay to excuse the lacking deco
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Post by DubstepJoltik on Jun 13, 2018 19:56:34 GMT -5
1. just because its memory-based doesnt mean its a bad level, or even that the gameplay is bad. many people like memory, and in any case i dont think its that much worse than, for example, most krazyman gameplay (which original as it is, is usually pretty annoying) I can't argue you with if you think the decoration is good. However, what you say about the gameplay is confusing. No one is saying the gameplay is bad because it HAS memory in it (take The Final Lair for example, I like the gameplay despite it being a 100% memory demon), everyone is saying the gameplay is bad because it's cancerous and frustrating. If you've ever played the level on Practice Mode as well as something of about the same difficulty (e.g. Glowy, Demonicat), then you might notice that the gameplay in Killbot is far more obnoxious than either of the two levels stated (though none of these three are all that fun).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 20:30:38 GMT -5
1. just because its memory-based doesnt mean its a bad level, or even that the gameplay is bad. many people like memory, and in any case i dont think its that much worse than, for example, most krazyman gameplay (which original as it is, is usually pretty annoying) I can't argue you with if you think the decoration is good. However, what you say about the gameplay is confusing. No one is saying the gameplay is bad because it HAS memory in it (take The Final Lair for example, I like the gameplay despite it being a 100% memory demon), everyone is saying the gameplay is bad because it's cancerous and frustrating. If you've ever played the level on Practice Mode as well as something of about the same difficulty (e.g. Glowy, Demonicat), then you might notice that the gameplay in Killbot is far more obnoxious than either of the two levels stated (though none of these three are all that fun). sorry, thats just the impression i got. mustve just misread i do still think that it doesnt really deserve to be called one of the worst 2.1 levels though edit: having gone and played the layout in practice (to see if it was really the gameplay or just the flashing that makes you have to remember everything which was bad) and honestly other than the weird confusing ufo/wave dual in the middle it wasnt that bad? if i was better id probably even think it was fun. maybe im just insane idk but it seems like the problem isnt the gameplay itself to me at least.
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226 posts
Creator Points: 0
Favorite Level: Thine Wrath by HDow
Hardest Demon: Triple Flask by Experience D
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Post by 2017tnt on Jun 18, 2018 17:51:00 GMT -5
I have another potential dishonorable mention: Skystrike by facundoC9. The deco is pretty bland and some of the color combos are iffy.
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Tornado
Stereo Madness
Guy who barely ever uses this forum lol
17 posts
Discord: tornado#1447
Creator Points: 000
Favorite Level: Forrest Gamp by th04
Hardest Demon: Iridescent by Viprin
Mini-Profile Text Color: Lol
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Post by Tornado on Jun 18, 2018 21:56:52 GMT -5
A good contender for this is elision by daksoul. The gameplay is some of the worst in any featured level period. There is basically no block design. The art is boring to look at, and the nature theme has been seen many times before. It’s a very unoriginal level at best
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19 posts
Discord: northernphase#9977
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Post by northernphase on Jun 24, 2018 0:59:52 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, Permafrost by MountainDew77 was made in 2.1. You might argue that it doesn't use 2.1 objects, but it sure as hell was released in 2.1. This level tries to copy Snowflake by Verticallity, and sucks at doing so. The snowflake fails at being a copy, the creator didn't know how to have an object follow for forever so the snowflake inches back, the block design is fucking horrible, the gameplay literally is garbage in its purest form (AFTERTHOUGHT GAMEPLAY FOR A TRASH LEVEL) and has tons of bugs and invisible shit, and literally attempts to copy another rated level. No other 2.1 level is such a fucking disgrace to the community like this one is. Scared I was gonna see this on here haha. Mountaindew77 is an old friend from over 3 years ago. Lets just say I was disappointed when I saw this level...
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Post by Beany on Jun 24, 2018 11:23:14 GMT -5
once god eater comes out that will probably be the worst
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226 posts
Creator Points: 0
Favorite Level: Thine Wrath by HDow
Hardest Demon: Triple Flask by Experience D
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Post by 2017tnt on Jun 30, 2018 16:51:36 GMT -5
Shuriken by EpiEpz (now Creamure)? It may be even emptier than Soothe AND Depression.
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71 posts
Clans: Qualia, Castrix Empire
Creator Points: 0
Favorite Level: Arkea by GDLoco
Hardest Demon: Speed Racer by ZenthicAlpha
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Post by scharonne on Jul 10, 2018 5:22:35 GMT -5
A good contender for this is elision by daksoul. The gameplay is some of the worst in any featured level period. There is basically no block design. The art is boring to look at, and the nature theme has been seen many times before. It’s a very unoriginal level at best You have got to be kidding me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 5:50:18 GMT -5
i present to you
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Post by Luxi on Aug 13, 2018 22:49:38 GMT -5
Ice Shards by Lerevon, I stumbled across it just now and I'm surprised no one here has mentioned it yet.
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Tornado
Stereo Madness
Guy who barely ever uses this forum lol
17 posts
Discord: tornado#1447
Creator Points: 000
Favorite Level: Forrest Gamp by th04
Hardest Demon: Iridescent by Viprin
Mini-Profile Text Color: Lol
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Post by Tornado on Aug 14, 2018 10:38:05 GMT -5
Forget the post I made earlier, I was just really pissed. Boi by gsml3o99 is a really bad level, due to it’s bad gameplay, ugly design, and art that looks like it was either traced or just had no effort put into it
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226 posts
Creator Points: 0
Favorite Level: Thine Wrath by HDow
Hardest Demon: Triple Flask by Experience D
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Post by 2017tnt on Aug 15, 2018 22:52:40 GMT -5
Compiling all requests into one thread (that have not been responded to)
-Skystrike by FacundoC9
-Pow Pow by IYuriI
-Shuriken by EpiEpz (now Creamure)
-Boi by gsml3o99
-Ice Shards by Lerevon
Adding two more:
-Wistful Wish by Juffin (clashing design and confusing gameplay)
-Minimal by Foxann (name may have changed) (empty design and mind-numbingly boring gameplay)
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