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Post by perrito triste on Mar 10, 2018 18:26:15 GMT -5
But he has a 144 Hz monitor! He doesn't hack guys!!!!!!!
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Post by Gingie on Mar 10, 2018 18:39:30 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't really give a damn about the FPS bypass?
I have personal negative feelings about sunix, so he can fuck off.
As for this FPS bypass bullshit, I'd say, use it if you want to beat a level that's out of your reach, not because it makes the level easier for you and you want it done quickly. It's still illegitimate either way, and I back the list mods entirely for not allowing records to be added. If you want a record added, beat the level with no sort of hack whatsoever, if you want it for self satisfaction and accomplishment, then use the bypass, I don't care.
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Post by Queziviat on Mar 10, 2018 18:41:51 GMT -5
nobody cares about the list and anybody that does shouldn’t
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Post by TylerHLS on Mar 10, 2018 18:50:58 GMT -5
I hope it doesnt take sunix getting banned for people to consider this hack "acceptable". It is inevitable for the demon list editors to receive loads of complaints and hate which they shouldnt because no one is exempt from the rules but as I stated earlier the list editors will receive hate from this because its sunix that got banned. Imo the rules should stay intacted until further studying is done to prove that it doesnt change the gamemode mechanics. I just fear that the list editors wilo recieve a bunch of unnecessary hate.
Tl;dr Sunix should be banned because of the principals but the community wont see it as that way.
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Post by GD WUBZ on Mar 11, 2018 2:13:34 GMT -5
I just hope the mods can stick to there guns on this issue, there gonna get alot of hate from fanboys and other people, i know it cant be easy to be bashed like that everyday, but rules are rules and its very well know what the consequences are, FPS bypass is a hack, and always will be
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Post by Egida on Mar 11, 2018 2:41:25 GMT -5
It's literally impossible to tell whether the FPS bypass was used or not from a footage. So by the innocent until proven otherwise rule, he shouldn't be banned.
This gets to show just how ridiculous of an idea banning the FPS Bypass is. How do you want to forbid something if you can't detect it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 2:41:26 GMT -5
nobody cares about the list and anybody that does shouldn’t i sure do love logging onto the forums and seeing someone else shove their opinions about the list as a whole down other people’s throats. glad to see this forum hasn’t changed at all while i’ve been gone.
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Post by headhonchkrow on Mar 11, 2018 3:09:15 GMT -5
rules are rules and its very well know what the consequences are, FPS bypass is a hack, and always will be As for this FPS bypass bullshit, I'd say, use it if you want to beat a level that's out of your reach, not because it makes the level easier for you and you want it done quickly. It's still illegitimate either way, and I back the list mods entirely for not allowing records to be added. If you want a record added, beat the level with no sort of hack whatsoever, if you want it for self satisfaction and accomplishment, then use the bypass, I don't care. This "it's a hack so it should be banned" argument only holds water if hacking by itself is considered unethical within the community only because it's hacking; and indeed, some people would claim that. Others would say that hacking is only a problem because it provides unfair advantages. But does the FPS bypass really do so? It only makes it so that GD can run over 60 fps, which makes straight-flying much easier, although slope bugs and other glitches can occur. From what I've seen, this description fits very well with monitors with higher refresh rates (such as 144 Hz); if their records are accepted, then why shouldn't the FPS bypass be accepted? I have personal negative feelings about sunix, so he can fuck off. If Sunix fanboys flaming the list editors because he's been banned is bad then what you're doing is just as bad, if not worse.
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Post by gamecubeguy214 on Mar 11, 2018 3:27:13 GMT -5
I do not understand why FPS bypass is bad at all
Person 1: *has 144hz* Person 2: *hacks to have 144hz on a 60hz monitor*
Person 1 and 2 then both beat Bloodlust. Person 1 gets list points because he has 144hz, but person 2 doesn't because they hacked 144hz for themselves. One gets points and the other doesn't even though they're both on 144 frames per second! How is that fair or OK?
Some would argue that it's using a third party program to make the game easier. Yes it is, but it's hacking into something that's still considered legitimate, which is 144hz. It's like you're trying to make people pay big money for a powerful monitor with such a refresh rate, even though the money isn't even going to you. Now how rude is that?
I think Sunix should be back on the list. He did nothing wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 4:29:58 GMT -5
ok cool but i'll keep playing gd
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Post by GD WUBZ on Mar 11, 2018 4:31:30 GMT -5
I do not understand why FPS bypass is bad at all Person 1: *has 144hz* Person 2: *hacks to have 144hz on a 60hz monitor* Person 1 and 2 then both beat Bloodlust. Person 1 gets list points because he has 144hz, but person 2 doesn't because they hacked 144hz for themselves. One gets points and the other doesn't even though they're both on 144 frames per second! How is that fair or OK? Some would argue that it's using a third party program to make the game easier. Yes it is, but it's hacking into something that's still considered legitimate, which is 144hz. It's like you're trying to make people pay big money for a powerful monitor with such a refresh rate, even though the money isn't even going to you. Now how rude is that? I think Sunix should be back on the list. He did nothing wrong. For one, Sunix knew that using the hack would get him banned, so he kept it a secret, which is just straight dishonest As for 144Hz monitors being "hacks", theirs a difference between an exploit in Robtops bad coding, and third party application changing code to achieve those same results I know it seams unfair, but using the bypass is easyer then normal 144Hz, and even then you could always up it to 240Hz, sure the game gets buggyer, but it gets easyer as well, and such a tool that powerful cant be allowed, in my opinion anyway Theres a line List Mods must draw for any kind of advantage, and the line is drawn here
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Post by QnK on Mar 11, 2018 4:34:30 GMT -5
Lol setting the fps cap is an option in almost every game. There is no reason to ban someone because he uses external sofetware to do this.
I recommend banning V-Sync, because it gives you an advantage lol.
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Post by GD WUBZ on Mar 11, 2018 4:41:20 GMT -5
Lol setting the fps cap is an option in almost every game. There is no reason to ban someone because he uses external sofetware to do this. I recommend banning V-Sync, because it gives you an advantage lol. Ban V-Sync and all 144Hz players videos will be filled with screen tearing XD
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Post by vitesse on Mar 11, 2018 4:57:05 GMT -5
but using the bypass is easyer then normal 144Hz source for this please
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Post by jordan853 on Mar 11, 2018 6:36:31 GMT -5
How was Sunix caught for using the bypass? (I'm actually curious)
Anyway, I think the FPS bypass should be allowed but not because Sunix got banned for "using" it (I don't know whether he used it or not) but because the list apparently allows using the editor hack to fix bugs (and if the moderators validate the excuse or not). It makes no sense how altering a level to fix bugs in the level with a hack is allowed while artificially setting your monitor to a higher refresh rate is not (I would understand banning the record if the FPS was set to a really high amount). If the reason to prohibit the bypass is because the bypass is a hack, then they should completely ban the editor hack (remove any exceptions) and any other hacks the list allows. The only reason I can think of to ban the bypass but not the editor hack is because a bypass set to 60hz 144fps causes changes to the gameplay physics which 144hz 144fps wouldn't but I can't say for sure.
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