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Post by TrueChaos on May 27, 2017 8:23:04 GMT -5
When most people think of hacking, people think of noclipping or speedhacking. However there are hacks that don't really affect how you can beat a level, like the object limit hack or copy hacks so you can practice demons that aren't copyable. Do you believe that hacking is acceptable in some circumstances or hacking is unacceptable no matter the circumstances.
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Post by Lumpy on May 27, 2017 8:44:50 GMT -5
I think that using no-clip/speedhacking to beat levels, whether for stats or for attention, is not okay, but it's fine if you just wanna practice a level you're trying to beat i'm the editor. I don't think copy hacks are bad for themselves, useful if you want to practice an uncopyable level with startpos, but using any or all of the copied level in something you publish or for any personal gain (like a video) is bad. I think object limit hacks, group limit hacks, custom object limit hacks (as long as they aren't used to copy others work for your own gain, they're usually used for putting together megacollabs) are good because they let you do more with the editor and robtop doesn't seem to care. I think any hack that involves getting into and/or changing others users' accounts, changing your stats in any way, giving you moderator/featuring a level, or flooding the servers in some way is bad.
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Post by TheKlappR on May 27, 2017 8:52:37 GMT -5
creator hax are okay, noclip/speedhax/anything else that helps you in-game are also okay as long as the haxxor doesn't claim his haxxed achievements as legit personal data (passwords, levels, etc) loggers and server exploits are just no
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Post by perrito triste on May 27, 2017 9:26:41 GMT -5
Again, as long as they don't harm anyone, it's OK with me
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Post by BlazerLazer on May 27, 2017 9:46:15 GMT -5
Everything spikejumper said
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Post by GDN4rwhal on May 27, 2017 10:02:47 GMT -5
Object hacc is ok Copy hacc is ok (unless you use it to steal someone's level) Noclip, speedhack, and stat hacks are never ok
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Post by Arcane on May 27, 2017 11:07:08 GMT -5
Okay: Creator hacks, like object limit etc. Noclip (to preview a level on Youtube) Copy hack, as long as it's only to startpos a level.
Bad: Hacks to deceive (speedhacking or noclip, pretending you beat a level legit.) Hacks to verify an insane or extreme demon (silent levels are ok.) Hacks for attention ("hacked levels" or likebotting.) Copy hack to steal a level, or to use any part of a level without permission. Hacking other players maliciously.
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Post by Zirphynx on May 27, 2017 11:20:21 GMT -5
Okay: Creator hacks, for example object limit hack and custom object hack for megacollab makers NoClip to preview a level on YT (for example showing a layout) Copy hack (if you want to practice uncopyable demons like Bloodbath)
Bad: Hacks to deceive (speedhacking or noclip, pretending you beat a level legit.) Hacks to verify an insane or extreme demon (silent levels are ok.) Hacks for attention ("hacked levels" or likebotting.) Copy hack to steal a level, or to use any part of a level without permission. Hacking other players maliciously.
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Post by Lumpy on May 27, 2017 22:54:28 GMT -5
Okay: Creator hacks, for example object limit hack and custom object hack for megacollab makers NoClip to preview a level on YT (for example showing a layout) Copy hack (if you want to practice uncopyable demons like Bloodbath) Bad: Hacks to deceive (speedhacking or noclip, pretending you beat a level legit.) Hacks to verify an insane or extreme demon (silent levels are ok.) Hacks for attention ("hacked levels" or likebotting.) Copy hack to steal a level, or to use any part of a level without permission. Hacking other players maliciously. um did you accidentally copy the post of the person above you?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 23:10:35 GMT -5
The not so bad hacks. - Copy hacks (for general convenience since some levels don't have copyables)
- Editor hacks (also for general convenience and to make creator's lives easier)
- Icon hacks (this is a bit controversial but icons are really only for show so I'm fine with it)
- Song hacks (as in Absolute Gamer's "download copyrighted song" hack)
- Custom object hacks (can make megacollabs a lot easier to deal with sometimes)
- No clip hacks (only if they don't use the hack to deceive others I'm fine with it)
The bad hacks. - Stat hacks (just no, if you want good stats work for them)
- Account hacks (hacking famous people out of pure aggression or malice)
- Dislike bot hacks (annoying and tedious to deal with)
- No clip hacks (if you're using no clip to deceive others it's a 100% no no)
- Speed hacks (if you're also doing this to deceive others it's also a 100% no no)
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Post by PikaBlu22 on May 28, 2017 2:13:38 GMT -5
Yay another one of these posts that talk about negitive hackers and positive hackers! I love these so much! If anyones ever read a post ive made about my ideas for this game. Most of the ideas stem from hacks. Like noclip and copy hack. The reason for this is because good hackers as of right now do what RobTop can do but 200% better and 1000% faster. The hack ideas they create can be so beneficial that if implemented into the actual game would assist thousands of people by making a better GD experience. Hacks like No-Clip, Menu/Practice Changes, Copy Hacks, Respawn Hacks, and Texture Packs, all make the game so much better! All thanks to some amazing hackers. Obviously all of these hacks could and have to be tweaked if ever added to the game. I am 100% for hacking and believe firmly that without it this game would be on the verge of failure. Imagine Minecraft without mods, that would be a bad game. GD without game improving hacks is the exact same. This spoiler contains the reason why No-Clip and Menu/Practice songs necessary, and how they would work. If you are mad or confused about that please read this. If not then this can be ignored. Now unlike the last few posts I did I will also explain what I mean by some hacks as every single time I make a new features post I always get that question. Specifically "YOU WANT NO-CLIP IN THE GAME!?! THATS CHEATING!" So now before that happens I shall adress that here. No-Clip is hands down one of the most important hacks ever made. It has allowed level creators the ability to easily prieview their levels, show off a layout, etc, without hassle. Without it many of us would be in the dark with nupcoming levels or at least only have badly cut or synced videos. Thats why No-Clip needs to be added. Now the way it would work in game is totally different. Unlike the hack it would be a mode, just like practice mode, that allows you to play the level, WITH THE SONG, and go through any objects. You can not verify a level or beat a level with it, and when you use it just like start pos and practice mode, a little testing message pops out on the top left. Now the last thing im gonna talk about is menu/practice song change. Yes it is hacking to change that so for all you PC players that have done it, you are hacking, but this is hands down my #1 most damanded feature in the game. This feature should have been added in 1.9 and because its not in the game millions of users are being marginalized due to it being a PC exclusive hack, (Maybe Android too.) I would rather have this feature be added to the game than have a new level, mode, blocks, icons, vault, or anything else. The only thing that rivals this addition to the game is the GUI Overhaul that is my second most damanded thing in the game. RobTop you need to add this, stop adding unnecessary bullcrap and add osmething that will actually make your game significantly better and more fun! I dont care about vaults or icons! I want to get rid of that ear crap version of Stay Inisde Me and the boring menu song! Please...
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Post by Zirphynx on May 29, 2017 7:17:34 GMT -5
Okay: Creator hacks, for example object limit hack and custom object hack for megacollab makers NoClip to preview a level on YT (for example showing a layout) Copy hack (if you want to practice uncopyable demons like Bloodbath) Bad: Hacks to deceive (speedhacking or noclip, pretending you beat a level legit.) Hacks to verify an insane or extreme demon (silent levels are ok.) Hacks for attention ("hacked levels" or likebotting.) Copy hack to steal a level, or to use any part of a level without permission. Hacking other players maliciously. um did you accidentally copy the post of the person above you? not really, i was inspired by it.
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Post by LuMaIchArgI on May 29, 2017 8:30:39 GMT -5
Depends on what you're hacking, but so far I don't know any good GD hacks
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 8:44:36 GMT -5
Copy hacks: Yay if just practicing a level, nay if stealing a level Icon hacks: I don't know, they're cheating but nobody ever cared about icons Obj hack: Yay because it allows you to make cooler levels Stats hack: Nay, since it's pretty obviously for deception Noclip and speedhacks: Yay if previewing or showcasing a level, nay if cheating a level or deceiving the community Verify hack: Yay if for silent levels, nay for pretty much everything else. User hack: Nay unless it's to fix another user hack. Like or dislike botting: Nay, stupid and useless.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 9:53:37 GMT -5
Yes if you don't ruin other people's experience.
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